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80944.26 in reply to 80944.20
Date: 3/31/2009 9:21:01 AM
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It's pretty well established by now that the salary cap for allstars is about 80,000. I doubt that this guy has managed to add 35k in salary since the start of season. But he might be getting close, I guess.

The all-star soft cap can hit players with salaries as low as around $50k. I suppose that is a little known fact.

You are of course right. it could vary a bit based on position/skillset.

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Date: 3/31/2009 9:30:17 AM
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It should not be affected by positions as long as player´s "position" is only a rough orientation for newbies... I think its only salary.... I just made up new interesting question :) does anybody know, if there are subskills in potencial? :)

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Date: 3/31/2009 11:44:47 AM
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as long as player´s "position" is only a rough orientation for newbies...

That's not really true. Salary is affected by the best position so if caps work anything like it, which is possible, they could depend on the best position as well. Hence the question.

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Date: 3/31/2009 2:34:26 PM
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salary is affected by skills ONLY, you are wrong I think..

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Date: 3/31/2009 2:52:14 PM
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salary is affected by skills ONLY, you are wrong I think..

See (46657.42).

Also, about 50k. I've noticed that these two guys with allstar potential ((3088888) and (2818928)) have been steadily getting better over the last few seasons (their salary was nowhere near that in season 5, when potentials were introduced). I'm not saying this 50k figure is wrong, but if it isn't, the cap seems to be a very soft one.

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Date: 3/31/2009 4:08:45 PM
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This is an interesting thread, but BBs didnt said that it is true. I studied their results carefully and I still think that each skill counts the same for every position - the difference is very small so it can possibly be deviation caused by subskills. I agree that some skills count more than others, but that is all I can accept. Position is only formulation of proportion of skills and has no other purpose.

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salary is affected by skills ONLY, you are wrong I think..

See (46657.42).

Also, about 50k. I've noticed that these two guys with allstar potential ((3088888) and (2818928)) have been steadily getting better over the last few seasons (their salary was nowhere near that in season 5, when potentials were introduced). I'm not saying this 50k figure is wrong, but if it isn't, the cap seems to be a very soft one.

the cap for centers is usually around $75k. my sf hit the cap at around $65k and several guards have hit the cap around $50k. but as the cap inducer does not appear to consider the exact same considerations of salary, there is some variability.

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Date: 3/31/2009 10:38:06 PM
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This is an interesting thread, but BBs didnt said that it is true.
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Position is only formulation of proportion of skills and has no other purpose.

It is certainly not true because it doesn't count with sublevels and they counts towards salary for sure. Whether position have some impact towards salary is another thing but I don't really care because no matter why salary is calculated the same players will have the same salary and the same position as well so technically position doesn't change anything - you can't get any advantage by the position of a player (in comparison to similar player with different position) because as soon as he would get the same (or more similar) skills his position would be changed too. And if some player of similar skillset is cheaper it is just because skills he has are a bit cheaper (considering equal sublevels) not because he is considered to be best at different spot.

That's why it would be nonsense if positions would have any impact towards cap. Since position can instantly switching every training update it would mean potential cap would change too and that would be dumb. Most importantly we don't know for sure how the cap works. But the cap could be triggered by certain overall level of (all) skills or by crossing a certain level of salary. Ii believe the first is the case and actual salary and position act only as indicators something like fan survey for attendance; not causing it but indicating why something is happening.

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Date: 4/3/2009 1:23:52 AM
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Cleary this thread is no longer a bug report, but as the soft cap topic and this discussion might be interesting for a lot of users I opened a new thread in BB global. (84203.1). Feel free to continue there.