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Farewell to you too and hope you come back bigger and stronger, wait no just come back with more money =P
Sad but true... all you need is money to survive in the abbl. So start saving, training and/or selling those rookies..

This taken from the buzzer beater's best, B3 forums:

The thing I'm worried about is that when you look at B3 developments from season 14 and on, you start to see that the more important aspect in the more important club competition is not something related to basketball but money, in a more specific fashion, saving money.

In season 14 we had this country-buying-to-his-club-in-B3 war which ended with the discussion about how teams could simply buy a monster in order to win a competition played for the whole season. The result was the new B3 system.

In season 15 we saw how the new system was able to prevent the "legendary trick". Despite the fact that the discussion was dominated by the legitimacy talk about the wild card they were others who where looking another fact: The B3 winner was the second most expensive team in competition.

In season 16 we are making fun and throwing some "challenges" in order to avoid something not so fun: the fact that everybody thinks VS is going to win this season. Now, I don't have any problems with it but it somehow bothers me that he's probably going to win it not because he's a very good manager(which, he might be anyway) but because he simply bought a monster team that no one can stop.
And we see some old managers saying that the only way to be a competition for him is to go kamikaze buying another monster team. This might be fun but it also might not be so fun.

The question I want to raise is what do we expect from the B3 competition? Do we want it to be a competition in which you have to save money for many seasons loosing the opportunity the compete for something in a big country, or explode the fact that in a small country you can have a 200k team and win everything while saving 500k per week so you can later buy the B3?

I don't know guys. For me this set of rules are kind of bored, the only way to win is to save for decades in order to(hopefully) face other teams who have been saving for decades. Savings happening in very different conditions related to big vs small country dynamics must be said.

I wanted the B3 to be arena for the most skilled players where they could face each other in order to have a true champion. A competition where the ability to understand the GE, make a good long-term roster development strategy, making good investments securing key players for your strategy, and reading your opponent to win the battle of tactics could led you the championship. Not just saving money. Or not just having the saving money feature as the most important key(I do think that in order to win B3 you should have a good long-term plan but also suffer some short-term difficulties).

Am I the only one who's concerned by these things?

I think back to the early days, the BB's were saying stuff like 'just to survive in the top division you will have to break even!', whereas most of the teams in the ABBL run at a profit

But that depends on what everyone else in the league is doing. If everyone else is going close to the salary limit then you got no choice but to go near it in order to compete. But because there are some teams that are not doing it, other teams don't need to do it either as they can still win games without going near break even.

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 7/24/2011 8:55:31 PM

I don't have a solution for it and to be honest I don't see a problem at all LOL

If someone wants to tank a few seasons for a shot at winning the title 5 seasons down the track then so be it. They sacrifice short term gains for long term goals, then that is their strategy.

kamakaze koop has already shown his hand.. there is no more cash to go all in. And besides I dont see myself winning the abbl anytime soon, so just training players and upgrading arena.

perfectly said... the two bots have really lowered the standard of the Great 8.

Why would you want to go 19-3 and lose to WA is a dump when you can go 3-19 and still win your relegation game to stay alive in the abbl.

The only advantage I see is maybe more ticket sales and merchandise for winning games but even that can be offset by paying less player salaries.

In saying that, I feel this season will be really competitive in the abbl with teams trying hard not to relegate.

I'd choose 19-3 and a 2nd place every day of the week - the aim of the game is to have fun, not to be bored s**tless tanking for seasons on end.

hahah thats the thing.. there is like 50000 teams..
At the end of the day there will always be someone who will tank 10 seasons to win 1 division one title LOL
Now I'm not saying that, that team is me, but I'm just trying to be realistic hehehehe

That team will be mine

Adams guns receiving another gift from the BB gods.

Just slightly! My three are crap as usual but I have to keep one as a scrub, his name ..... fatty dick. Imagine the commentary

haha luck does appear to be still on my side. Kinda annoying because obviously and I guess fairly everyone will say luck, doesn't really give me a chance to prove my managerial skills. However I will train this gem, not making that mistake again. But on the same card he does have a few deficiencies.