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84879.262 in reply to 84879.261
Date: 4/9/2010 4:57:06 AM
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Train one on one when they're older. Secondaries are not as important as getting his primaries up first.

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84879.263 in reply to 84879.262
Date: 4/9/2010 5:28:59 AM
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But direwolf said to train them first....mmm...confused :D

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84879.264 in reply to 84879.263
Date: 4/9/2010 6:07:51 AM
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Bah, just finished a big post and my phone wouldn't post it. Hope this one works.

Something nearly all big man trainers tend to forget about are the salaries that big men can be hit with. Sure, you could train a IS/ID/REB monster but
A) he won't be as effective as a well rounded player
B) his salary will get out of control so quickly that you'll be forced to either stop training him or sell him while he's still fairly young.

I recommend spending the first season or so rounding out those 'guard skills' if you can because you'll have a better player in the long run and be able to handle your salaries more easily as well.

As far as this issue goes, like I said before: if you're only training those guard skills for a season or so, you want to maximize your results by doing it young.
Completely up to you and what's best for your team though.

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84879.265 in reply to 84879.263
Date: 4/9/2010 6:28:04 AM
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I suppose he's right too. I rounded up my player when he was 20.

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84879.266 in reply to 84879.264
Date: 4/9/2010 7:08:19 AM
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Cheers. I'm going to follow what you said. Thanks for all the advice. I'll keep you updated on his progress :) hopefully he makes the national team.

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84879.267 in reply to 84879.265
Date: 4/9/2010 7:30:58 AM
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Just to add my 2 bob in as the U21 manager, I would imagine it would be very difficult for a player to make the U21 team as a PF/C with a season and a half of guard skills training, his inside skills just wouldn't be up to the required standard by the time he's 21 (not impossible though, if anyone can do it, an 18 y/o with the 4 inside skills at respectable can). Having said that, I imagine such a player will be more wage efficient, and probably better for your own team (and as Direwolf says, you'll be able to train him for longer due to the wage costs being lower). Such a player would probably work out better for the NT in the long run.

I'll qualify this by saying I'm a guard trainer, and have less idea about big men training that others may have however

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84879.268 in reply to 84879.267
Date: 4/9/2010 7:43:19 AM
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Well my goal is to get him on the U21 national team and the national team. So what do you suggest to get him on the team? Btw, he is on strong inside defence now.

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84879.269 in reply to 84879.268
Date: 4/9/2010 9:47:05 AM
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The training would definitely make him more of a PF than a C but what would you prefer in a PF?


Jump Shot: Prominent JR: Awful
OD: Pitiful Handling: Proficient
Driving: Inept Passing: Average
Inside stuff: Tremendous

or

Jump Shot: mediocre JR: Atrocious
OD: Pitiful Handling: Respectable
Driving: Pitiful Passing: Inept
Inside stuff: Prodigious


Obviously it's a rough estimate above (and sorry for the shoddy layout, I'm still on my phone atm) but with the suggested training I think this player could look something like the first example.
Example 2 is great for a C but we've all seen a million big men who look just like that. For a PF I would say he could probably make the U21 team as a 21 year old (especially in an outside focused offense) and definitely be there for the senior team with further training.

Anyway, I'd definitely take the 1st example and that's what I would do if I just wanted to get the most out of him but I've probably blabbered on enough for now. The info is there, I'll let you decide :P

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84879.270 in reply to 84879.269
Date: 4/9/2010 12:50:00 PM
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well my man Junel Viojan (13434471) Small Forward

Weekly salary: $ 6 620

DMI: 14200
Age: 18
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: average
Jump Shot: strong ↑ Jump Range: strong ↑
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: atrocious
Driving: average Passing: average
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: average Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: atrocious

just poped in js and jr at once!! now time for inside def?? or am i better to go for is first???

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84879.271 in reply to 84879.264
Date: 4/9/2010 1:26:42 PM
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Do you suggest training one on one for forwards or guards?
Cheers

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84879.272 in reply to 84879.270
Date: 4/9/2010 8:46:52 PM
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train ID first and rotate it between ID and reb.. those are the 3 main skills u will be training if u want Viojan on the U21 side.

his OD and passing looks fairly good already.

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