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200170.265 in reply to 200170.264
Date: 12/16/2011 5:16:02 AM
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I don't think great is strong enough word ..... they ripped the Clippers off is more accurate. The only way the Clippers win in this trade is if CP3 extends AND Griffen stays AND those 2 can draw other players to the Clippers. Otherwise it is heavily in the Hornets favour for all the reasons you have mentioned yoda.

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Date: 12/16/2011 5:20:45 AM
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Funny it was only a couple of days ago someone mentioned this exact trade as the sort of "completly unbalanced and unrealistic trade" that it may take to get CP3. I think it was in the 12 days of christmas series.

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Date: 12/16/2011 8:07:06 AM
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Sorry to bust in but I've been very closely watching all the recent NBA trades and I love what the Clippers have done! Yes they are still a way off really solidifying their spot on the big stage but with Paul and the Rim Reaper, they are on the right track. It's a real shame they had to burn Gordon but to gain Paul, to go with a rookie like Griffin, who avg 20pts/10rbd in his official rookie season, massive potential. That has got to be attractive to other big names, especially in L.A. (Clippers or not). They have a back burn of PG with Billups and Williams which I only see as potential to gain. DeAndre Jordan is a C to watch out for, that showed magical highlight reams of his own, in the shadow of Griffin. Caron Butler at SF, these guys are only a decent SG away from kicking some ass!

To add, with a PG line of the following:
Paul
Billups
Williams
Bledsoe

Honestly they can trade Billups and Williams for a decent PG and they are rolling. Of Course Billups could front up at SG but personally I see one more trade to come, before the deadline.

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Date: 12/16/2011 3:39:45 PM
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I have read multiple people saying that no matter how they start at the end of big games it will be a Billups and Paul backcourt. Billups is very strong and can guard bigger guards in a way that Gordon actually couldn't so having the CP3 and Gordon backcourt would have actually caused defensive problems against teams with big guards. Having the experience of Billups and Paul on the floor together in CT will be brilliant when most of their other stars are very young and after his treatment by NYK Billups will be wanting, health permitting, to have a statement season.

Look at the LA teams.

CP3
Billups
Butler
Griffin
DAJ

vs

Worst PG in league
Mamba aged 102
Metta World Peace
Gasol
Bynum half crazy and probably injured.
- Odum given away for nothing at all

Is this even close?


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From: iwen

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200170.269 in reply to 200170.267
Date: 12/16/2011 3:44:34 PM
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Billups can't be traded.

From: ezlife

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200170.270 in reply to 200170.268
Date: 12/16/2011 4:59:34 PM
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You guys wanna check it out:

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2011-12/66783406.pdf

It looks like that could be a fair match up, although I believe the Lakers aren't done with trading yet!

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Date: 12/16/2011 5:36:18 PM
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Interesting. That article gives the Clippers the edge at 3/5 places and the bench. Lakers wins include Coaching (debatable) and center (highly debatable given Bynums recent brain farts and injury history).

From: Violator

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200170.272 in reply to 200170.269
Date: 12/16/2011 7:37:15 PM
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What about Williams? Surely he can't be happy coming off the bench.

Personally I would be happy to see the Lakers get owned by the Clippers, not a Lakers fan in the slightest.

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Date: 12/16/2011 8:35:02 PM
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they will probably just waive/ametsy Mo otherwise I dont see any reason for picking billups when bledsoe need playing time to develop.

I stand by my statement of gordon will be a flop, an undersized SG who can shoot, he doesnt have good enough handles and smarts to play point.

From: iwen

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200170.274 in reply to 200170.271
Date: 12/17/2011 12:40:51 AM
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Well no way in the world is Griffin better than Gasol yet.

More exciting? For sure. Better? Hell no.

Kobe obviously over whoever plays SG..

Bynum, for all his woes, is far better than Jordan. That's not even debatable yet.

From: yodabig

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Date: 12/17/2011 3:54:22 AM
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But if you could add either Gasol or Griffin to your BB team right now who would you choose? Would take me a microsecond to decide. MAYBE Gasol is better right now, he certainly was at the start of last season but Griffin has been a very hard worker and a quick learner as well as an incredible athlete and a good guy with 100% upside and potential over Gasol who really was unimpressive in the second half of last season even though I would have rated him in the top 5 big men in the entire league at the start.

Bynum is clearly better than Jordan...when he isn't injured, when he isn't suspended, when he isn't ejected, when he isn't in foul trouble, when he isn't in a funk, yes for that 25% of the season he is a top five center, the other 75% of the time I would again rather have the still improving and super-athletic Jordan.

Both are in my opinion debatable. Want to win a game today I would go Gasol and Bynum. Want to win as many of 66 games this season as you can (and 82 for the the next season) then I would take Griffin and Jordan.

Last edited by yodabig at 12/17/2011 3:55:06 AM

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