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the drop off is exactly as planned to penalize those top teams from maxing their ticket price.

ticket price, suvery(result) , opponent is the key to attendance

the top teams always set the high price
and expect their high salary players can keep their suvery(result) good
and in this case even the opponent is the bottom of the div

all 3 elements is bad, why should the attendance maintain?

completely unrealistic.

And I like it this way. Have you been following latest NBA labor negotiations? Owners were seeking competitive balance, so small-market teams wouldn't suck so much when compared to LA Lakers and Chicago Bulls. In the end, they couldn't find it. Lakers, Bulls and Boston will remain rich and New Orleans, Minnesota and a handful of others will remain "poor".

BBs don't have to put up with owners-union disputes, so they can create the BB world in such a way we have competitive balance. For this to happen, they have to resort to some unrealistic methods that wouldn't work in real life. But tell me, do you really want to be a Minnesota-like team and never in 100 seasons have a shot at winning anything while watching those Lakers being champions again and again? Tell me honestly if that would keep you in the game only because it's realistic.

Last edited by Koperboy at 11/30/2011 2:04:34 AM

So what do you suggest for attendance instead of depending so highly on the outcome of last game? Power of franchise? That would be unfair to new teams. Attendance based on previous season? Also unfair, it would only make the gap between top and bottom teams in the same league bigger with every season.

Current attendance system is not perfect, but it denies top teams the luxury to lose a game here or there and still get away with it, so they have to give their best more often than they would like. I mean...if you are a top team, your fans kind of expect this of you, right? It seems though OP of this thread would like the system to behave for him like Lakers in NBA; it doesn't matter if they lose or win on the road or even if they have a crappy season; they will always fill the arena for each home game even with highest ticket price in whole league.

The draft is suppose to be an equalizer right? The worst teams get players that are valuable to put them ahead of the teams that just won it all right? But instead our draft you rarely get out what you invest and its impossible to train rookies at the top level without ocmpletely losing . You can't draft Wade or Lebron in this game.

You are correct to a point. In lower leagues 4k allstars are good enough for almost any team and they are plenty. In top teams, 4k MVPs are most of the times too weak for a trainee and they are already rare. But since top teams make a lot of money, it's not that hard to spend a million or two every 3 seasons for a top trainee, isn't it (look at my roster and you will see what I'm talking about)? Then you can train that guy in the cup. If you want to win the cup, using trainee in cup for tough games is out of the question and you have to sacrifice a game or two in the league, but...after 2-3 seasons, it will well be worth it. Or you can just buy a U21 player from any country for 2-3 mil and use it in cup games right away.

So plenty of possibilities. I don't know why are you so pessimistic. This is a long-term game that requires long-term planning and for that, you have to make some sacrifices along the way. But if they pay off, the satisfaction of outsmarting your opponents is even greater.

Last edited by Koperboy at 11/30/2011 2:58:12 AM

Love seeing this stuff

Bloody hell - its only an online basketball manager game

settle the hell down

You forgot that the top teams have to sustain a much bigger payroll and can't train 18 and 19 year olds, while worse teams can do that and invest into arena. After a certain number of seasons, the top team will have to buy great 21 and 22y olds to stay on top that cost much more than 18y olds. And those great 22y olds with good secondaries are not growing on trees; they are quite rare and expensive.

I'm sure a 18y old HoF who was bought for 1M can be sold for 2 - 3M after three seasons of training if he is trained correctly. So a worse team who invested 1M and three seasons of training doesn't have to spend those 3M, while a top team has to in order to stay on top. Also after three seasons, top team's players are 3 yeard older and they are losing their value.

I think everything will fall in place after few more seasons. The only anomaly that really stands out for me is countries with small number of users that can save money for few seasons and then buy out a B3 or something. However, I think this will also correct itself as more and more teams are training multiskill players that will be very expensive to buy, but easy to maintain. I know a team like Venomous Scorpions has enough money to buy such players, but there are also teams who will keep their trainees and won't have to invest as much as VS will have to in order to win B3, home championship or cup.

Note that I use VS only as an example of a small-country team with loads of money, it's nothing "personal".

Last edited by Koperboy at 11/30/2011 5:17:13 AM

Lousy team plays teenage's salary like this:

1st season 5k
2nd season 10k
3rd season 20k

Top team plays the same player's salary like this:

4th season 40k
5th season 70k
6th season 120k

In those 3 seasons, lousy team has a new guy that is paying 5-7x less than top team and can maintain low payroll and shoot for 5th place every season until they build an areana big enough for their league and save enough money to buy 2-3 superstars who'd join his trainees, now good enough to compete with the top team. So from the moment new team enters the top league until it can compete with top team, 6-8 seasons can go by. For some that's a lot, for some it's normal. But I don't understand those who think this process should take no more than 2-3 seasons which is not realistic at all. On other hand, the same people want the game to be realistic as much as possible. Luckily those are in minority, but it seems like this is majority because they are so loud on forums. Those people will never be satisfied, so their "problems" must be taken with a grain of salt.