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55804.27 in reply to 55804.10
Date: 11/2/2008 4:50:09 AM
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we talking in generality, takes the best 18y and the best 19y player, they are in the same level. do you find it logical..?


we could imagine the best 19y players were drafted the season before when they were 18 ;)

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55804.28 in reply to 55804.11
Date: 11/2/2008 6:10:31 AM
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i agree the drat right now is not nearly optimal...i think you should give olders an advantage on youngers and rise the averages of the rookies higher,there's a whole diffrence from 1 draft pick and the last but if this game want to be like the real life then the first draft pick should be good enugh to play in the first 5 in his team in the NBA 1 draft picks are scoring 20 points in game most of the time and sometimes more but here you will be lucky if your new player will make a 10 poitns average...there is a lot to change in the current system for my opinion.

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55804.29 in reply to 55804.28
Date: 11/2/2008 6:48:47 AM
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absolutely untrue. A few number 1 picks help their teams, a few are stars, and a lot ride the pine. This year's number 1 pick is not starting for the BUlls. Nor are the #3, 6, 7, 8, or 9 picks starting for their teams. J.R Giddens, the Celtics' first pick, will be lucky to see court time during blowouts.

Just because a player is a year older does not mean he should be better. And I disagree that draftees should have better skills than t three seasons ago.

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55804.30 in reply to 55804.28
Date: 11/2/2008 6:53:43 AM
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I saw many times that my player, in fact crap on skills, while he were in the bench and played only 15 minutes or so, he got a one of best score that game

sometimes happens that if you have not much chance to do in a game, you will put a more than full power and your concentration is for these 15 minutes much more bigger than if you were in that match from the beginning... - it is called an motivation

..that's how low skilled players are taking their's chance in their's clubs, however question is if it wasn't only any random factor and this function IS or IS NOT in GE implemented..

I'm taking this under my research or will put an suggestion who knows, BBs knows

Last edited by Iordanou at 11/2/2008 6:54:39 AM

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55804.31 in reply to 55804.29
Date: 11/2/2008 8:47:59 AM
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again, nobody said that because a player is a year-two older does it mean he should be better.. first of all, everything relative.. there is and there is .. I don't said it must that 19y be better than 18y and I have a lot of examples from the real life but anyway, reality or not, our draft system must some refreshing..

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55804.32 in reply to 55804.31
Date: 11/2/2008 9:08:08 AM
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In fact at least three people said 19 year olds should be better, including yourself.
Some 19 year olds are better. Some 19 year olds are worse.

I think the draft is fine. Like Kozlodoev said, the draft is for acquiring raw material.
It's not supposed to be worthy yet.

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55804.33 in reply to 55804.31
Date: 11/2/2008 11:11:52 AM
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I don't said it must that 19y be better than 18y and I have a lot of examples from the real life but anyway, reality or not, our draft system must some refreshing..


Why does it need some refreshing? It has been adjusted 1 or 2 seasons ago with a new interface and extra information about the players you gathered scouting reports from. In my opinion it is too early to shout for changes when the current system hasn't been decently analysed yet because more data are needed.

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55804.34 in reply to 55804.31
Date: 11/2/2008 12:14:44 PM
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again, nobody said that because a player is a year-two older does it mean he should be better


Actually, that seems to be the basis of your whole argument.

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55804.35 in reply to 55804.34
Date: 11/2/2008 12:43:00 PM
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Right, but I never said that all the 19 years old players should be better than 18y. and that's what he understood from the message.. it's clear that there is some 18y old players are much better than 19-22y(Lebron James at age 18 was much better than very senior foxes). but I talked about the talented players of age 19y in the draft system.. but again, all relative .

Anyway, the whole suggestion it to makes general change and not just between the rookies ages .

Last edited by Warrior at 11/2/2008 12:45:46 PM

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55804.36 in reply to 55804.35
Date: 11/2/2008 12:48:26 PM
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whole respectable 19y could be good difference sometimes, human talent is unexpectable, so your point can have good reflection afterall

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55804.37 in reply to 55804.28
Date: 11/3/2008 12:33:18 AM
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i agree the drat right now is not nearly optimal...i think you should give olders an advantage on youngers and rise the averages of the rookies higher,there's a whole diffrence from 1 draft pick and the last but if this game want to be like the real life then the first draft pick should be good enugh to play in the first 5 in his team in the NBA 1 draft picks are scoring 20 points in game most of the time and sometimes more but here you will be lucky if your new player will make a 10 poitns average...there is a lot to change in the current system for my opinion.

Well if you'd change the system in order to some draftees being stars already from the beginning you'd have to change the training system to - a normal player will not make the progress he is doing i BB in the real life.

Of course 19y old players should not have a skill advantage - it would be nonsense since it would remove the reason for picking the young 18y old (since 19y old are not training that much slower and the 19y old would be closer to your starting five). The skillfull 18y olds are and should be the real stars of the draft and should never be less skillfull than their 19y old counterparts.

Further, it is a good thing that the quality of the dragtees is not improving as the managers do. Of course all of us improve (to a certain level). That is natural as more mature teams will have more fans and better finances. If the draftees improved along with this we would just make better and better teams and never really have to be tactical and choose where to focus and how to gain the edge over our opponents. I think that'd be boring...

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