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8288.27 in reply to 8288.20
Date: 11/26/2007 11:15:40 PM
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At what price though.. that's the point. They'll sell the players at probably equal as they bought the good once since they can control the economy that way. That is how it's gonna work. Good teams buy the good players... sell their old ones... make a profit and the poor teams will get a player that's probably overpriced.
With this system.. The richer get richer... the poor just get to be poor with a few leftovers.

You fail to understand the meaning of 'let the game grow by itself'. I'm not saying you should NOT go to the TL or you should get good players only by training. You can easily let the players grow from training. One team trains focuses on inside the other on inside. That way players grow 'naturally'. The other team buys the other teams trained outside players. I don't even know why I'm explaining this. This is just a matter of common sense. Just put 2 and 2 together.

I don't have any objections about the transfers.. the only problem i have is that the release of botified players will eventually effect the community. I find it ironic that no one really thought this through before implementing. Now that's it's implemented.. people are trying to find excuses to keep it alive. You can't deny it does have an impact on the community. There is no major reason to let the botified players on the TL. NT players i understand, but the botified ones i don't. There is no way a team will make reasonable profit by selling a player in his team who's less skilled that the ones on the botified market.

And by the by.. when you quote... give a proper argument on that particular quote. Quoting me on "Normally these kinds of players wont see the day light in the TL." and answering with "And the money they rich teams didn't spend would what, disappear? They'd still have the money so that at some point, they would snatch up the smaller supply of good players." is not even remotely valid.

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8288.29 in reply to 8288.28
Date: 11/26/2007 11:25:49 PM
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Read... They sell the old players for about the same amount as the ones they bought. Buy good players for 500k ... sell the old ones for 500k.

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8288.31 in reply to 8288.21
Date: 11/26/2007 11:42:38 PM
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Let me again point out that these players are, by and large, really not that good.

I agree.
In fact, barely one season in, and I've yet to see a reason to go onto the transfer market and replace any of my players.
All I've done since join is sell and sack a few players.

I don't know whether I was particularly lucky with my starting roster, but if it weren't for the television games my club would fold (it appears to be quite difficult to sell out and cover expenses when you first start off, I have only just filled my arena the last game I had (unexpanded), and even then I'm not even close to covering fortnightly wages - once that 50k/week disappears, noobs are struggling).

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8288.32 in reply to 8288.21
Date: 11/26/2007 11:45:14 PM
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So if they are not that good, then why have national teams that are showcasing this talent? If they are not that good, then why bring them back into play? If they are not that good, then what does that say about the players each team has.

I am pretty sure the retention rate of teams is very low right now and it just doesn't make sense to put the quality players back in play. Allow the players who are developing their players to develop the players. Just because we don't have any players above level 10 in a 20 level game is nothing to sneeze about. HT has that prime issue with Divine players. Whats going to happen when in Season 5 you run into the same problem?

Players will reach the next tier in time. As you tell us users, be patient.

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8288.33 in reply to 8288.22
Date: 11/26/2007 11:47:22 PM
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Sure because you have better players - I would say the same thing to a person who was complaining about a bunch of mediocre and inepts.

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8288.34 in reply to 8288.33
Date: 11/26/2007 11:55:22 PM
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Sure because you have better players - I would say the same thing to a person who was complaining about a bunch of mediocre and inepts.


Actually, you have a team that could compete pretty readily with his...

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8288.36 in reply to 8288.21
Date: 11/27/2007 1:15:30 AM
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the idea behind the economy is that you have rich teams down to poor teams,and how rich you are is MOSTLY a function of your division level so that their is a significant advantage to being promoted. Now rich teams are suppose to be able to afford the best players in the game, the poorer teams are not, but that eventually their should be a spectrum of players available at all levels and that all teams should be able to improve their RELATIVE economic position in order to buy a RELATIVELY improved player.

The system we have setup has flooded the market with some 4K players, which are currently amognst the best in the game. naturally, the richest teams are the only ones who can afford them. This won't always be the case, as players in general improve the best player a starting team gets will not be the best player available in the game and the richest teams will not be interested in them... and contrary to a previous point that was made, they won't be able to buy them and sell them again at a profit since the only real demand is coming from the poorer teams and the poorer teams can't afford the price the richer team bought the player for.

It was indeed our intention to hasten the improvement of specifically the richest teams because that is the part of the economic/player ability spectrum that needs to be filled out the best.

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8288.37 in reply to 8288.1
Date: 11/27/2007 1:56:51 AM
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Ideally, all players would be re-cycled. If 10 clubs go into receivership, and 10 new clubs start up within days, the players from the bankrupt clubs would simply sign on with new clubs, some might move to existing clubs and others to the new clubs.

It's not a good idea to have the very best players going to start-up clubs, so it makes sense to let them be FA. The money doesn't have to be lost to the overall economy. It can be redistributed in all kinds of other ways.

Right now, many of the players who are being FA listed are not players that were given to a team 5 weeks ago, but are players who have had a little bit of training and started last season. As the salary threshold increases, it will be much rarer for the players being FA listed to be those that were assigned to a team and never having played.

And other players can be recycled as well. In some cases, they could simply take on new identities - countries and names, or if they have been playing BB for some seasons, let them keep their personal history. These players can simply be distributed to new clubs. Over time, this will gradually upgrade the talent given to new clubs to reflect the actual distribution of skills produced by training, and so that the new clubs don't start as far behind existing clubs.

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