BuzzerBeater Forums

BB Global (English) > Tanking

Tanking

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
00
218937.272 in reply to 218937.271
Date: 6/7/2012 6:45:50 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
244244
Hmm, I don't know if this is true or not, what I do know is he is currently in 5th place and recently sold off his team to tank/train again.

This Post:
00
218937.273 in reply to 218937.272
Date: 6/7/2012 9:10:54 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
4343
I heard he's gonna be doing some minor farming for the NT, but I don't really know.

This Post:
00
218937.274 in reply to 218937.241
Date: 6/8/2012 1:41:00 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
You want 48 minutes for a trainee ? Use 9 players in your order.


(48817509)

It doesn't help, and it happens more frequently than I'd like.

Last edited by Koperboy at 6/8/2012 1:41:10 AM

This Post:
00
218937.276 in reply to 218937.275
Date: 6/8/2012 2:53:01 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
Another advice:
Don't blow up your opponent.


I didn't try to...36% FG while playing 2k and 3k players in the starting five. And still I can't secure 48 minutes for my trainee. If that's a will of a BB developer, maybe he should change his will. This game is already too mysterious and random. They don't tell us anything about GE to help us develop players for other tactics than LI. But they expect us to commit ourselves to train players for other tactics without knowing how. So I'll train 5+ seasons and wonder if I'm doing right only to see at the end I'm nowhere near the powerful LI teams? Why should I invest my time into something that not only can not succeed, but can completely fail. This game is really starting to piss me off. At least tell me something I can work with.

End offtopic rant.

Last edited by Koperboy at 6/8/2012 2:57:54 AM

This Post:
00
218937.277 in reply to 218937.270
Date: 6/8/2012 4:05:38 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
299299
How do teams get "worse" after tanking for a season or three and saving up millions?

Money is pretty worthless when the players you're looking for are not on the market (I had to invest various amounts of training in almost all of my starters to have them fit my needs -- and this takes time).

I can see how this makes sense; it's a good point.

Thing is, if you tank, and fans blindly come to your boring games for season after season, saving up loads of money as a result, you can buy a MASSIVE roster, afford their salaries and win that way.

From: saginsi
This Post:
22
218937.278 in reply to 218937.247
Date: 6/8/2012 6:42:32 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
33
The best solution in this tanking problem is to increase the player salaries floor for at least twice the previous amount and to increase the promotion money.

This Post:
11
218937.279 in reply to 218937.278
Date: 6/8/2012 6:49:06 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
As it's been already said, promotion money shouldn't be higher as it already is as this would entice many more to jump up and down divisions each season, chasing that promotion bonus every 2 seasons.

This Post:
00
218937.280 in reply to 218937.279
Date: 6/8/2012 7:16:04 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1313
An higher salary floor limit would be nice, the average salary in my league is 380k, the floor limit is 115k! less than a third of what the average team is paying

Last edited by Adz (Giants) at 6/8/2012 7:17:47 AM

From: RSX

This Post:
11
218937.281 in reply to 218937.274
Date: 6/8/2012 7:25:24 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
181181
To guarantee 48min for my trainees, I set only 5 players for a game, so they can't be subbed. Yeah, the game is pretty much annoying.

From: Fonzi

This Post:
22
218937.282 in reply to 218937.31
Date: 6/8/2012 7:42:18 AM
UK Wildkitties
Bundesliga
Overall Posts Rated:
201201
Second Team:
Berlin Mavericks
I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but this is my two cents. I think we need to distinguish two things here.
One is the actual tanking, meaning finishing last on purpose. I have no problem with that. If you argue against tanking, you would have to consider that probably the best approach to start the game is to invest into your arena first while not taking on too much salary.
After all it is each manager's decision how he wants to run his franchise. Get a couple good draft picks to build around, buy some talent and train them or buy already good players. Everyone has to decide on his own if he wants to win now, slowly get stronger or take a different approach. And there is more than one way to be successful.

Number two is the buying of high salary players for the playoffs/relegation. While I do think it is each manager's choice if he wants to push for homecourt advantage in the playoffs or accepts playing on the road, there needs to be a fix. Again, I support the idea of "tanking" and going for a 4th place finish with less salary. Manager A might have a higher salary throughout the season and finish 1st and get homecourt advantage. Thats his reward. Manager B might have less salary and finish 4th. He doesn't get homecourt, but might have saved a couple bucks along the way. There is nothing wrong with buying an extra player now. In order to prevent an abuse of that by going for a player that earns as much as the whole team, simply move the deadline for the player to be eligible for the POs two weeks ahead. Buying players is an integral part of managing and those two weeks would make up for the financial gain over the course of the season for Manager B I would assume (after all you have to consider that manager B is probably making less money from home games and merchandising). That way everyone needs to think twice before taking on a huge salary player. And if his playoff run doesn't lead to the championship he might be broke afterwards.

Another idea to somewhat balance the whole thing is giving financial bonuses for winning teams. Say each team gets a certain reward per game won (similiar to the cup rewards) and/or also a prize for the league finish at the end. Giving detailed numbers here would not make sense, since only the BB developers have insight into what the teams in different league levels earn per week.

Advertisement