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From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/14/2010 5:01:41 PM
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I don't like farm teams but, at least, they are not dedicated to destroy.

Farm teams destroy the game in a sence that - teams should be created to win. Farm teams are created just to be able to support one player. In the ideal world there would be teams competing for championship and best players from the best teams will get chosen for NT-s. In the farm teams world, players in the NT-s are not even competing at the highest level.
Now we can argue about the fact that in the real world some NT players might play in the second league in a foreing country, but I think we all can agree that no NT player will play in the second league of their own country!
So perhaps there should be a restriction of appointing players into the NT. No players from teams below divI of their own country. This would not be enforced for U21 teams? Additionally no below divI teams can bid on NT players from theyr own country.

From: CrazyEye

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Now we can argue about the fact that in the real world some NT players might play in the second league in a foreing country, but I think we all can agree that no NT player will play in the second league of their own country!

So perhaps there should be a restriction of appointing players into the NT


germany played with Robin Benzing(2cd german league) and Elias Harris(3rd German league) at the european competition in Poland last year^^

So overall a silly rule.

From: Manouche

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And what about the destruction of fired NT players that is the main discussion ?

I don't defend farm teams. What are you into in this thread ???

From: Kukoc

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First plays in Bundesliga now and second plays in NCAA. So they got theyr calling card 1 season early. Just like Team America adds few players from college teams. It's not like they could not get better players for those spots.
In this game you can not enforce players to switch teams when they are ready for NT level action. In real life they will be picked up by better clubs. In this game you would need to restrict NT appointing before he is eligible (national divI or foreign divI+divII for example).

From: Kukoc

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I'm just saying if you can have NT player farm teams, you can also have NT player destroyer teams.

From: CrazyEye

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but they was second league players when they play in the NT also a guy called Doreth got the call to the NT who is still a third league player, and i don't think the NCAA is on a level with the Bundesliga(first league) ;)

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Date: 3/14/2010 6:15:25 PM
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Well, how surprising. He began to be bad trained, having bad amounts of minutes just after an important match between France and Poland was announced, if I remember well.
it wasn't a multi account. Just a farm that became a trap for NT potential from a rival NT.



May i know when Polish national team played against French team after 12.12.2009 (date of last Riaud match) If you cant show me apologised would be welcome.

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Why after 12.12.2009 ? Oo

Riaud was transfered into this team from D4 in august.


And surprise !

The 31st of august 2009 :

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/6857/boxscore.aspx)



Last edited by Dunker Joe at 3/14/2010 6:31:41 PM

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Date: 3/14/2010 6:36:38 PM
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Absolutely.

I am not telling that a whole country is responsible without proof.

However, if things occured as if you might have a doubt, it gives you an idea of problems there might have later if it would become truly premeditated.

That's the most important thing to hold back, and the only one I wanted to demonstrate.

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From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/14/2010 6:39:47 PM
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NCAA top teams are prolly better than Bundesliga teams. But that is beside the point.
The point is - you can have NT players from foreign country divII (as we can assume some countrys are stronger than others), but you can have NT players from your country top division only.
I already explained how in real life you can give tickets to NT in advance (as you know he will be your best player for 10 years to come). Just like Ronaldo sat on Brazil's bench before he even was anybody (and ended up as an overweight dumbo :D). In BB training and young player improvement is a lot different from the real world and players will never get moved to teams they should play at considering theyr level. In order to make it a bit more "real" (we all agree that we want the game as real as it can be), we should try to discourage farm teams. Or we will have NT-s filled with the same countrys divII-divIII team players. That would be really illogical, wouldn't it?

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