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You think so? Haven't noticed such a thing. I would estimate they would net 10-20k in mechandise.
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My own experience with a player that I drafted and then played for Canada's NT was an impact between 5-20K. And this is with a player who only had a 40K salary. So if indeed these effects are proportional to salary (as the rules seem to indicate), I stand by those numbers.

What evidence do I have of this? I have always noticed that my merch revenue has been consistently higher than the average in my series, in spite of having lower salaries overall and finishing near the middle of the pack the last two seasons. Also, after I sold Wendon, I had an immediate drop of 13.5K in merchandise, in spite of the fact that I won my previous home game and had virtually no change in my fan survey.

Of course, having never owner a 1 million salary player, I cannot say definitively what the impact would be.

i have sold Serbian NT player with 180k salary and my merch drop was about 10k.. So that is pretty much the price.

the merch revenue is the same of the other weeks,the other incomes drops ;D

I remember you from the other thread where you undervalue the merch impact of things like player from your country and NT players. I sold a player like that last week, I can tell you that the effect is quite noticeable.

Sorry,I think you overvalue very very very much the impact of the merchanidising in the economy of a team.If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player

And a team who doesn't make any move on the market,surely has the same merch revenue of the other weeks,while if is eliminated from the playoffs,the other incomes drops

$650,000 Arena income
150,000 TV contract
125,000 Merchandising
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$925,000...is about what the top teams are making a week...peace

If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player

Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

Why should a rookie expect, as if by some divine right, that he will reach the top someday?

For me a game is more interesting if there is some uncertainty, when you wonder if you have what it takes to get to the top division, or even into III or better.

If the game is merely a function of time spent, and one day even if you play relatively poorly you know you will get there, it isn't much of a game.

I would have been happy to start in Division X but alas not possible. If you want rookies to have more fun, especially in small countries, let there be more competition.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/19/2010 5:34:50 PM

If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player

Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

We're not discussing if a NT/national/draftee player help the merchandisng,becaue we know he do it
The starting point of our discussion was if it was normal that the price of players dropped in post season period,because many teams cannot afford the salary of their new player.AIf we admit a national player will increas of 20k the merch revenue,you have to consider that the same player has a salary at least thrre or four times the merch revenue.from a strcitly economical point of view,however you have to afford more expenses than the money you earn with the increased merch.So,also in these cases,the price of the players should be a little lower in the post season weeks to find a player with the possibility to sustain him.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

There are lots of facts involved in the merchandising, but nowadays its not worth the difference between buying a national player with high salary(centers) with the little amount of money you receive for him being in his NT. Also im sure that this rating is affected by if they play on a match or not, but as Steve said thats not the point of this discussion.

We are going in the direction that next season, every week we will see players with high salarys like 200+ in the transfer list. Just some managers can afford this kind of players, not to talk players with salarys over 250-300+ and with the new rules where salarys will increase around 10-15%, this kind of players will be discriminated, no-one would like to pay his salarys and we are going to see lots of moves in this players.

But whats happening now? The transfer list is on a inflation spiral, this kind of players that are now in the transfer list their managers try to sell them for 7-10M trying to speculate with them, even if they havent trained, that in most of the cases they dindt train it and they are just trying to make money with the speculation and thats something i said on this forum 1-2 months ago, the transfer market is in one of his worst moments of shape because is full of speculation.

For example i saw 1 player 2 weeks ago trying to be sold for 7M, no one paid then 6,5- 6- 5, 5M and at the end he sold it for the same amount of money that he bought him 5M but paying like i dont know maybe 1-1,2M in salary for 3 weeks.(aprox). The new manager that bought him is trying to do the same(sorry i cant remeber which player now) and we are on the second week and he will commit the same mistake that the last manager did, so at the end he will have to sell it for 5M or less and having paid 1M+ on his salary.


PD: I cant imagine Shaquille O'Neal or Dwight howard or Amare stoudemire being on the transfer list all the time ;)

There should be only a solution,link the level of incomes of the various countries to their competitivity,weight through some others factors ad for example the numbers of users and so on(otherwise what's the utility of the global rank?),acting on the arenas cap
But it's better to not re-open this argumnent,because the ideas of the two factions are well known