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The thing tho, is no matter what, people form opinions from experience but sometimes experience isn't enough.

If you're going to form a real opinion and say the Match Engine is as complex as some really think it is, you may as well provide a proper study proving it, which then again it's really hard to do properly.

I had to chuckle at this comment. I definitely agree that people's observations and their reported experiences can be subject to many different biases, but you have to agree that those of us who've spent more than 2 weeks here probably have a better feel for the game engine, no?

For example how really much more complex can this game be in comparison to Hattrick? Because Hattrick is a really uncomplex and simple form of rating vs rating and the outcomes comes from there. Here people assume the game actually goes like a normal basketball match would and it simulates every pass of every possession etc. To what extend that is really true I don't believe nobody knows, but this is just the 2 cents of a newcomer that already playing other managerial online games, or games that use the sort of mechanics this would.

Ah, now I start to understand why you are having some difficulty. This is actually an incorrect assumption on your part. The BB game engine is not similar to Hattrick. as BB-Charles points out in this post (23472.100), the team ratings are calculated after each set of events in the game engine have occurred. In that case, the individual match ups of offensive players versus defenders can be very important. Similarly for how certain sets of players work together on a team.

I'm not saying it's equal to Hattrick because I see it's not (it's pretty obvious), I'm just asking how different it actually is from it. Because there's a set of things that might work in a certain way that some guys may not think it does.

I'm not saying it's equal to Hattrick because I see it's not (it's pretty obvious), I'm just asking how different it actually is from it. Because there's a set of things that might work in a certain way that some guys may not think it does.

There's a significant difference here, though, in that the "sector" ratings are not the sole arbiter of what happens. In BB, for example, if you put a skilled outside shooter at C and face a team that plays a man to man with a typical low-OD center, even if your outside shooting sector rating is miniscule compared to the opponent's outside defense rating, that guard will put up a load of points and shoot fairly effectively. Secondary skills like passing on big men are also not incorporated into the sector ratings, but the effects of passing are clear often in the results of the game - both for the bigs who have it and more pointedly for those who do not.

It is true that BB-Charles was active in HT before developing BB and that several design decisions (20 levels of skills, training by position played, etc.) reflect that. But the engine itself, while not at all an ideal simulation, is leaps and bounds ahead of the current state of Hattrick.