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23501.28 in reply to 23501.24
Date: 4/9/2008 3:41:48 AM
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Great. This is exactly the type of answer I was looking for, and I thank you for responding so quickly.

I absolutely agree with you that the main problem with what happened (and in general what is happening) is the time it takes for the team that is rallying to either shoot the 3 or commit a foul. Right now it almost gives the impression that the GE is programmed to do one or the other exactly every two seconds.
The 4/4 from three point range can be considered somewhat of an aberration that is bound to happen with so many games played. In fact, I've seen other games that have had this type of final sequence, and the percentage of 3 pointers made was always around 50% (give or take a 3). What remained constant was the time factor. Exactly 2 seconds to commit the foul and no more than 3 (but in the vast majority of the times 2) to take the 3 point shot.

IMO the logic is fine (except for maybe sometimes when the losing team commits an intentional foul down by 7 or 8 points and the clock at 00:00, but that really has no effect on the final score). Stop the clock and shoot the 3 is exactly what I would want my team to do. The only thing I would change is the fact that the team in the lead should sub in all its best FT shooters, regardless of position. That does not seem to be happening right now.

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23501.29 in reply to 23501.27
Date: 4/9/2008 3:48:18 AM
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Furthermore,

On a game between a world-class team and an High school team they wouldn't need this desperate full court passes.

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23501.30 in reply to 23501.29
Date: 4/9/2008 3:54:25 AM
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I must kinda agree

The game is about 48mins and shouldnt be entirely changed within the last 30 seconds.. which has also happend to me a lot.

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23501.31 in reply to 23501.30
Date: 4/9/2008 5:13:21 AM
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When I stopped watching basket in TV, I had the following thinking: In this sport, you don´t need to see the whole match because most often you just need to see the last 5 min! So I guess, the GE is working fine by simulating this.

In general, I think the end of the games it is NOW better than before the changes (maybe BB-Forrest wants some feedback about this).

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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23501.37 in reply to 23501.36
Date: 4/9/2008 9:24:16 PM
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i'll try to do a more complete analysis of 4th quarter 3 point shots versus normal. I'd be sort of surprised if it turned out to be significantly different as we didn't change the probabilities at all.

I wonder what the math is in real life. On one hand there is more pressure in the 4th quarter, on the other hand the team that is up often plays less aggressive defense to avoid fouling in the act on 3 pointers. So i wouldn't be blown away if there was a slight uptick in 3 point percentage during the 4th quarter.

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23501.38 in reply to 23501.37
Date: 4/10/2008 3:11:23 AM
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I could understand a slight raise in 3 point percentage, but certainly not on desperation 3s that are taken 2 or 3 seconds after the ball is inbounded on the other side of the field. Which seems to be what is happening.

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