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90007.28 in reply to 90007.27
Date: 5/17/2009 9:27:53 AM
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The problem is the same every year,and effectively often the 5th in the league have a worse situation than the 6th
Maybe the solution is to give incomes for the scrimmages only in the period of the post season,and the incomes is based on the number of people which come into the arena in the scrimmage between the two 5th place teams in the scrimmage generated by the system(income divided 50%-50% between the two teams)

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 5/17/2009 9:28:22 AM

From: Kukoc

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90007.29 in reply to 90007.27
Date: 5/17/2009 9:40:24 AM
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The second promotion of your team was a fluke.
You have bought 2 players for a lot of money this month and sold 2 benchplayers this week. You do know that anyone can look at the numbers right.
Do you get CT-d a lot? You can TIE weaker teams easily at home if you have enthusias then away aswell.
I am pretty sure I would be happy to stay at 5-th spot next year if I am lucky enough to promote. Youre team would be easily playable for my team. Even with 2 of youre new signings.

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90007.30 in reply to 90007.28
Date: 5/17/2009 9:40:47 AM
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that dose sound like something that might help for some of the problems and i am sure that even if there will be even one game as such there will be less teams who rather be in the 5 place then the 6 place

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
From: LA-Nir
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90007.31 in reply to 90007.29
Date: 5/17/2009 9:50:53 AM
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i do not wish to go on this rubbish if some one care to look at the last week and say he know my team that is fine if he will look for the last month he will see that there wear more sells the buys with high price telling me my promotion was a fluke is just showing how litle he know of this game

but if anyone have anything that dose contribute to this post i will be happy to hear abut it rather then personal ignorance accusations

p.s Kukoc have a look at the teams in Israel D.I and Estonia D.I and tell me who do you think is harder or more competitive

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
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90007.32 in reply to 90007.30
Date: 5/17/2009 9:57:51 AM
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Yes,this thing is thought only for don't send many teams in a hard economic situation

From: Kukoc

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90007.33 in reply to 90007.31
Date: 5/17/2009 10:00:23 AM
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It's not about Israel vs Estonia.
It's about you failing to get 6-th place and flaming about it.

From: LA-Nir
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90007.34 in reply to 90007.33
Date: 5/17/2009 10:08:52 AM
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dose it seams logic that a team will want to finish in the 6th place and not 5th if thy can?

Get your facts firs then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain
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90007.35 in reply to 90007.34
Date: 5/17/2009 10:11:59 AM
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There are people that feel being safe from relegation in 5-th place is all they need. It's twistedly different in some cases (you for example).

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90007.36 in reply to 90007.35
Date: 5/17/2009 10:23:01 AM
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and yet i will find 10 ppl who think like me for every 1 person who thinks like you

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90007.37 in reply to 90007.36
Date: 5/17/2009 10:33:56 AM
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Let's be honest now. You do not actually know, how other people think. You need a poll for that, as some people do not speak their minds openly or better yet, do not speak english at all.
Where did you get those odds? From you're own yardsale?

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90007.38 in reply to 90007.11
Date: 5/17/2009 10:40:56 AM
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There are two separate issues with the four teams in each league who do not get to play this Tuesday... and they should be considered separately.

1) The lack of a game for training purposes. 12 of 16 teams play this Tuesday. After Tuesday it reduces quite quickly... only 4 of the 16 teams could possibly be playing on next Tuesday... and the possibility exists that only 2 teams will be playing.

I suggested last season (and bumped it today in the suggestion forum) that the 5th and 8th place team play a forced scrimmage on the first Tuesday of the playoff week. This puts every team on even ground for training purposes in the first week. After that, these teams are in the same exact boat as the majority of the teams... they don't play on Tuesday.

2) The money issue is trickier. I was there last season... scraping by with no real income coming in. However, every team ends up having similar issues. The 4th place team that loses to the 1st place team makes some money... but it is not what they are used to making. For that matter, the 1st place team is making less than they normally would.

Strictly from a cash flow standpoint, the 6th/7th place teams make out like bandits. They are the only team in the playoffs guaranteed two games. I don't know the answer to that problem. But, I don't think giving teams scrimmage income is the correct way to go either. Perhaps make the 6th/7th place teams share only the income from the first game played. Perhaps distribute only a portion of the actual income generated from ticket sales. However... this probably should be in the suggestion forum as well.

[And, yes, I do understand that the 6th/7th place teams will suffer at some point in the future at the gate. But, as we all know, some teams need the cash flowing in constantly... turning off the tap even for a week or two leaves them in ruins.]

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