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Plot wist:
Hong Kong is beating Czech Republic. I really hope they can win against Finland (they will face CT, no doubt) otherwise the win against them wouldnt count in 2nd stage ! :D

This loss is on me. I did some poor choices but GDP is random as hell and this time it backfired.
The fact that I was on holidays and couldnt do real research until very last minue before the game doesnt help.
I hoped for somebdoy to step up and make analysis but really cant expect it so its all good.
now we really need Czech Republic to actually get into the second round so our win against them counts.....
Not to mention beating Suomi and Hong Kong. There is high possibility that we will be facing CT from both of those teams.

Last edited by damian13ster at 8/18/2014 4:11:35 PM

Their outside ratings have looked unfathomably bad this season. They are worse than D.I teams in that regard. Not sure how their team has changed since last season where they were elite outside. Could just be that the guy they use at SF has no shooting skills.

Just my opinion, but I don't completely believe we're the underdog in these games. Against Czech, our ratings were closer to 30 points better than the actual 13. GDP makes it harder for an absolute, but I'm almost positive we'd have had much better ratings even without GDP. I think our GS was worse too (Hall didn't play, Sammons barely played, etc). Against France, our GS was was much worse, they hit and we missed on 1 GDP, and our ratings were still extremely close. We would've unarguably had much better ratings with equal GS, GDP, effort, etc.

Btw I hope none of my posts sound like I'm attacking. I don't think you're doing anything wrong, just trying to argue that it's conceivable we're better than you think and that we shouldn't read too much into the randomness of one simulation per week. There's nothing definitive about singular simulations against comparable teams.

I am aware you are not attcking. I just believe you follow ratings too much, instead of looking at the quality of players and GS. Players from top teams are better rounded, which isnt always reflected in ratings.
Just look at Suomi- France game....
Looking at ratings alone you wouldnt think that France would come out on top. Its the same case in a game against us. The ratings look close even considering GDP. They did put extra effort, but it alone wouldnt get 20+ point win. Ratings dont tell the entire story.

Unfortunately we will be underdogs in following games as well. With no GDp and same effort that wouldnt necessarily be the case, but situation and schedule of those teams point heavily for them CTing us (at least Hong Kong)

Last edited by damian13ster at 8/18/2014 4:43:36 PM

I have to agree with Stajan. I think our team is being underrated, and we are close to on par with these teams, it's just GS has such a big influence. Against Czechs we had good GS, and unfortunately we didn't against France (and I don't think anything you could have done could have helped us beat them). Hopefully, we improve our GS for next week, and for my part, I'll be trying to get Sammons 59 mins this week.

Yeah, unfortunately PD hurts, although 1-1 with France anc Czechs and -8 PD is not bad. I would have taken it before tournament.
And you are right about ratings, as evidenced with our win against Czechs only by 13 points despite 2x hit GDP and them using weaker tactic.
Last two games will be very interesting. Using enthusiasm will become crucial now.


Wonder whats the outlook in Canadian community. Do we play it safe, use up enthusiasm to get to the 2nd round, or do we take risks in order to get a shot at semis (small chance) risking that we place 5th in the group?
There is a plan crystalizing in my head but I would still like to know the opinion of other Canadian managers and will take it into consideration. Please do not put your thoughts in the open forum. There is an off-site for that and the thread will be created in the evening (we dont want opposition to be able to tell what we will do, right?). BB-mail is also an option.
Thanks!

of course all of those deliberations won't make a difference if we dont get top GS for remaining two games, so anyone with NT player (and I will be sending BB-mails to managers that I suspect dont visit forum regularly), please do make sure they get the correct amount of minutes next couple of weeks. GS training will be appreciated as well (especially this week)

Last edited by damian13ster at 8/19/2014 9:33:23 AM

Threads created. Everybody to the offsite!

Scouring through individual players and looking at past training, etc it is really impossible that that particular France team would compare to our quality with equal GS and no GDP. I'm on board with GS being the biggest factor for that result.

And yep, not liking our schedule. Probably couldn't have been drawn any worse. Finland could norm or CT next game. I think HK should be better than France in that next game, but France can norm them and be favourited, leading to HK saving norm or CT against us in our final game if they think it's necessary.

Last edited by Stajan at 8/19/2014 2:32:40 PM

France has South Africa last so I can see them playing normal agains HK. We will see. I thought that sachedule wasnt bad at first, but I didnt take all the freaking mTIE deals going around. Thought we will have tons of enth advantage by now.....

Last edited by damian13ster at 8/19/2014 3:02:05 PM

Hall set to play 130+ minutes this week. Manager didnt even open bb-mail.

Well, it makes an easier choice when it comes to who to scratch........does that count as a positive?
We absolutely need Sammons and Worley at proficient this week

Worley is on track for a good week pending todays cup game.

fingers crossed