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From: Panic

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191253.284 in reply to 191253.283
Date: 7/28/2011 10:18:56 AM
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Congrats on using the Nemesio money to promote! I believe brian is to blame.

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Another set of questions for the candidates, related to tactics:

Would you consider calling up a player and using a roster spot specifically because player can fit a certain offensive or defensive scheme? How many of these players would you consider having on your roster?

Secondly, the majority of national teams are super-conservative especially with defensive tactics. How likely are you to stick to m2m defense, compared to trying 3-2 or 2-3? Would you feel comfortable playing a 2-3 zone, for example, if the matchup suggested it?

Lastly, what are your opinions on the new tactics (the Iso's and Box-and-One's)? Would you EVER consider using them in international play? Or would you stick with the well known tactics, letting the standard leagues try out the newer tactics more instead?


Sidenote: You guys are really cluttering up this thread with useless posts, and really taking away from people like me and Jason trying to answer the questions. Please try to refrain from needlessly bashing each other or trolling. No one is going to take the time to read a 250 post thread with like 30 actual questions and answers. Anyway...

- Absolutely I'd call up a player for a specific reason. Defensive specialists, LI PG's, rebounding monsters, etc.

- I love playing zones, especially at the club level because I feel the game engine will put a more ideal defender on the shooter. If there's an elite player or 2 on a team, you don't want to get burned by having an inferior defender on them. Doesn't matter quite as much at the NT level, but yeah I ran 3-2 or 2-3 zones pretty often when I ran the New Zealand NT squad.
I like 3-2, but it's hard for our NT since we're not very good inside defenders so it's a bit risky. I have no problem with using a 2-3 zone if the time is right. I lobbied for and absolutely agreed with jfarb when we successfully pulled it off against Italy this season. Desperate times call for desperate measures, especially with our distribution of talent on the NT.

- I've run both of the Iso offenses and both Box-and-One defenses fairly extensively, as I said earlier. I had my reasons (had a few players with outstanding shooting or defense skills compared to the rest of the team) on my club team, and I was genuinely curious to their performance.
I like to use the Box defenses because I see it as a hybrid between man-to-man and a zone. If you're not sure where the star player will be lined up, or if they have a nasty SF, or if you don't know whether they'll go guard or big at SF, I think it's a great way to not get burned by guessing wrong.
The Iso offenses I'm not sold on, because I haven't noticed much of a difference between them and a Base offense, and I've done them quite a bit to experiment with.
I would love to try all of these for the NT in scrimmages or games against poor teams.

From: Dawson

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Date: 7/28/2011 10:30:14 AM
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I'm really torn on this vote. It is mostly as you say smedlock. Namssor has more experience, and I am not underestimating the New Zealand NT experience he has. Interacting with out NT coaches is absolutely vital. Building relationships and knowing who to trust is one of the keys to winning now.

Jason is a coach for building for the future. I think he will greatly strengthen and enrich the community and take activity to new heights. I don't know if he can make the correct decisions to win during this term. I expect a steep learning curve, but there are plenty of people to help while he gets his feet wet.



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Date: 7/28/2011 10:36:12 AM
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1.How do you see the new cross training effecting the training of NT players?

2. What are your opinions all together about the new cross training?


- Seems like it's going to slow down the development of NT-quality players. If I want my guard to get to 18 OD, I'm not happy that it's going to take 10% longer to get him there if I train Pressure, and I certainly don't give a crap that he'll be getting extra pops in Rebounding or Shot Blocking. I mean sure they're fine, but I'd rather have those points go to something for effective for the position in need. And yes, those extra random unexpected pops will inflate their high salaries even higher. A positive would be that making a true SF might be a bit easier now, and we could use a few more on the NT level.

- Gonna be real interesting to test out. I guess I kinda answered this already. At the club level I think it'll be nice to get the random pops, though it's going to make things a bit harder to plan a long-term training regimen. It'll also make buying players with real bad secondaries a bit more attractive.

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Date: 7/28/2011 10:38:14 AM
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I was president of my middle school.



Winner,winner,chicken dinner! lol

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Date: 7/28/2011 10:39:57 AM
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My vote will go with Namssor. I respect GM-Jason and Oriolekid as managers but they have many strikes against them compared to a long time, experienced user like Namssor.


I appreciate the love, good sir. You couldn't have laid it out any better.

Unfortunately I'm going away on a bachelor party this weekend to Montreal starting tonight, so since I'll be out of the country I'm gonna post a similar fact summary and just let it ride.

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Date: 7/28/2011 10:40:05 AM
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Sidenote: You guys are really cluttering up this thread with useless posts, and really taking away from people like me and Jason trying to answer the questions. Please try to refrain from needlessly bashing each other or trolling. No one is going to take the time to read a 250 post thread with like 30 actual questions and answers. Anyway...

Your welcome. If you don't like my campaign tactics feel free to withdraw your nomination.

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191253.292 in reply to 191253.291
Date: 7/28/2011 10:59:32 AM
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VOTE FOR GODBEAR!!!

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From: fewmit

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Date: 7/28/2011 11:50:25 AM
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I'm fairly sure it's an intelligent enough question to warrant an answer from someone...
From what's being said here it seems that the consensus from all the candidates is that a main obsticle to success is the lack of a 18/18/18ish big man. And that such a big man is not likely to be trained in the near future since foreign owners don't want to train the prospects, and USA I.1 is too competative for an owner to take on the financial risk and train such a player.

So, let's say that, without a big dollop of luck, such big men will not be a reality for the team anytime soon. My question to the candidates is,
1) What are the ideal G / SF prototypes to cover/compliment for our existing frontcourt deficiancies?
2) If such players don't exist now, how would you encourage their training by U21 grads or others so that they exist a few seasons down the line?


Group hug!
From: FatCurry

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Date: 7/28/2011 12:02:33 PM
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Traitor

And to think I was gonna start Aindow at SF

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