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I personally do not like Dwight Howard.. Other than blocking shots and being a presence inside, he is not a very good player. He has one post move and it barely works... He can't handle the ball at all, which most big men today can do. He has absolutely no jump shot.. he doesnt run the floor well.. He just stands around and blocks shots and gets rebounds.. He seems to me more like a highly paid big role player more than a star... Just my opinion.

Okay, Here is how everybodys top 10s add up using this point system so far.
1st place vote- 10 pts.
2nd-9pts
3rd- 8pts
4th- 7pts
etc.


The number before the player is their rank overall and the number after them is their total points.
1. Kobe Bryant (96) With a gigantic 7 first place votes!
2. LeBron James (87) With 1 first place vote
3. Dwyane Wade (73)
4. Kevin Durant (49) With 1 first place vote
5. Dwight Howard (42)
6. Chris Paul (34)
7. Carmelo Anthony (33)
8. Deron Williams (20)
9. Dirk Nowitzki (19)
10. Steve Nash (16)
11. Derrick Rose (15.5) Please decide 1 person at the 10th spot
12. Chris Bosh (12)
13. Rajon Rondo (11.5)
14. Shaq (10) 1 1st place vote (Is this a joke?)
15. Tim Duncan (5.3) 3 people at the ten spot, c'mon guys.
16. Pau Gasol (5) A little underrated if you ask me.
16. Manu Ginobli (5) A little overrated if you ask me
18. Kevin Garnett (4.3)
19. Brandon Roy (4) Way underrated on this list for sure.
20. Amare Stoudemire (2) I'd put him higher too.
21. Stephen Curry (.5)


Some of the positions were decided because of one vote so it would help ake the list more accurate for what most people think if more people could please vote.


I will not update this post, I will only update the first post.


Last edited by IwillDominate at 8/3/2010 2:54:02 PM

1- kobe
2- wade
3- le bron
4-deron
5-dirk
6- durant
7-paul
8- nash
9-carmelo
10-howard

but in his prime duncan would easily be on top 3.

Last edited by karapaks at 8/3/2010 4:47:30 AM

1. Lebron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Kevin Durant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Carmelo Anthony
6. Dwight Howard
7. Deron Williams
8. Chris Paul
9. Derrick Rose
10. John Wall :-p

Pau had no trouble leading his team to these championships:

NBA
2x NBA Champion (2009 and 2010).
NBA Rookie of the Year (2002).
2× All-NBA Third Team selection (2009, 2010)
3× NBA All-Star (2006, 2009, 2010)

European Player of the Year awards
Mr. Europa (2004, 2009)
Euroscar Award (2008, 2009)
FIBA Europe Player of the Year (2008, 2009)

Spanish national team
Gold medal in the 2009 FIBA European Championship
Silver medal in Basketball at the 2008 Summer Olympics
Silver medal in the 2007 FIBA European Championship
Gold medal in 2006 FIBA World Championship
Most Valuable player in the 2006 FIBA World Championship
7th place in Olympic games -Diploma- (Athens 2004)
Silver medal in the 2003 FIBA European Championship
5th place in the 2002 FIBA World Championship
Bronze medal in 2001 FIBA European Championship
Gold medal at the FIBA Under-19 World Championship with Spain (1999)
Gold medal at the FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship with Spain (1998)

FC Barcelona
Spanish League Champion (2001)
Copa del Rey Spanish Cup Champion (2001)
Spanish League Finals MVP (2001)
Most Valuable Player in Copa del Rey (2001)

If you would have just put those names down i would have to argue with a few of your selections, But your comments about each player are spot on, so instead of debating your players i will just say nice job.
OK I can't let this go D-Will should be in Nashs spot but that's coming from a die hard Jazz fan so take it for what its worth.

Aren't centers meant for more rebounding and not scoring? Because if I am correct then Dwight Howard is a good center.
Oh and also he averages like 15 PPG game so i would say is a good scorer too.

A good center rebounds and provides low post scoring. Dwight Howard get 18.3 pts per game and 13 rebounds per game. I don't think that is an over paid role player. He is the most dominant big man in the game right now and plays good defense inside. Sure he can improve many parts to his game, but he is still a great center.

I think its hysterical how so many are so quick to try to tear down players and find their weaknesses. Can Dwight Howard score with the ease and ability of Tim Duncan, Shaq, or KG? I guess not, but can he do some things that any other human can't? yes.

As a Phoenix Suns fan i have listened to people trash Amare Stoudemire for years about how he can't play defense. Some gripe about it so much as to say the guy is barely average. Give me a break. Amare is the most physically gifted offensive big man in the game. I suppose if you could combine Amare's offensive game, and Howards defense game, you might then have that all around, great, dominant player.

But the guy who has that kind of talent is truly named Superman, not just nicknamed Superman.

This league is loaded with great players, few that are well rounded. Steve Nash is another example of a guy who is absolutely the best on one side of the ball, but gets trashed for his ability (or lack of) on the other side. Fact is, Nash takes a ton of charges, and the way the Suns play, more often than not he is not the guy matched up on the guard torching the Suns anyway. But anyone outside out of Phx looks at a box score, and sees an opposing PG score 27 against the Suns and assumes Nash got schooled.

Shaq and Duncan are great players, cant hit free throws.

This guy is too weak, this guy is too big, this guy is not as agile as this guy. All the while people want to annoint players who haven't even proven themselves yet as the next great player!

Why does it always have to come down to one guy, or 10 guys? Funny how in an effort to support "your" choice for who the best, or better player is, "you" are willing to trash great players to make your case. The NBA is loaded with the top 1% basketball players in the world. As Charles Barkely said, "nobody in the NBA sucks, nobody makes it to the NBA who can't play basketball".

If I werer starting a team today, Nash would probably be my 1st choice at PG...D Williams probably about 4th on my list...If I got "stuck" with D Wiliams...I would be plenty happy! I like Nash's game better, but no way would I trash a great player like Williams, Paul, Roy, Rose, etc to make my points about Nash.