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That was not meant as an insult. I'm sorry if it seemed offensive. Thats the problem with the internet. I meant that your arguments and examples weren't backing up your assumptions - so shut up about it. As in stop arguing just for the heck of it and make some sense. Thats all.

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And the coach of his new team lives in a bubble? Is dyslexic and thought Reggie Evans read Reggie Miller?

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Look up Reggie Evans' career fg%. And stfu. Enough nonsense.


and did you think he never make shooting thrills like lots of your examples? And did you think shooting percentages here are comparable to the NBA(or other pro leagues)?

When a pro Baller is open, he sometimes take the shot, instead of passing to the dude who have a double team - sometimes it also helps to get the good shooter a bit space too.

Evans for example scored 15 points each game in college, don't look like a total nuthead to me ;)

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You're missing the point. The point is Reggie Evans, inspite of his offensive game not translating from a lower (college) to a higher (NBA) league, still, I repeat, still, shoots 47% from the field. Because he knows he'll be out of the league if he jacks up 3s with 10 left on the clock. Or shoots <40.

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You're missing the point. The point is Reggie Evans, inspite of his offensive game not translating from a lower (college) to a higher (NBA) league, still, I repeat, still, shoots 47% from the field. Because he knows he'll be out of the league if he jacks up 3s with 10 left on the clock. Or shoots <40.


the point is that he still have offensiv abilities, and not like the defensiv specialist who learned basketball without having a basket you want to have here.

When the average Big men skill in BB would be 13 for a league, an Evans stile player would have something like 10 IS and 15 ID. if you want shooting percentages like the NBa, you probadly need a average of 13 IS compared to 10 ID and evans have it maybe the other way round.

I hope you see my point now? In real Pro leagues there aren't people who can not score, even the defensiv specialist would be offensiv options one level below.

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Are you serious? You think Hakeem Olaijuwon could only be twice as good an inside scorer as Evans? And I'm not even bringing Wilt Chamberlain into the picture. I think your scaling is the problem. Evans can't be rated 10 on a 20 pt scale that features top inside scorers. Where would a Vlade Divac be? If you start Evans off at 10 do you understand the serious problem you have fitting in a whole range of talented big men?

You can rate Evans 10 out of 50 maybe, but setting him as the average? He's definitely below par on the offensive end but above par on the defensive end, and his role on NBA teams reflects that. An ID of 13 and IS of 7 (being kind) might be appropriate, and that's the kind of role player that I'm talking about in this game. I just would like it if such players were allowed to maintain some respectability when it comes to offense. Shooting 35% just makes the whole thing ridiculous.

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slight difference could make a big impact, and they aren't unskilled in he NBA but the extra bit help you a lot.

So i won't say they they are double that good - because they are all excellent athletes in the NBA and maybe a few of them are superior which is far away from double that good ;)

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Yet a lot of young (and not yet experienced) players try to prove themselves despite lacking the ability. The system works perfectly as it is.

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Funny thing I've noticed about dogs and cats and other lower consciousness animals, if you point your finger at something they just look at your finger, not what you're pointing at. And then they look at your face and bark or mew or whatever noise their (relatively) unevolved brain has been conditioned to produce.

I've told a few people that and they thought it was funny. Don't you? I mean I could be pointing at food. More savoury than what they have on their plate. But no. They just don't get it.

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This is a suggestions forum so I thought I'd make one that I would like to see implemented. There is clearly a difference between how real players play and players in this game play, especially role players, and I was just hoping that it might be looked at by those who've created this great game.

That's it. I'm not going to waste any more time arguing.

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