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257780.29 in reply to 257780.27
Date: 4/26/2014 5:47:07 PM
Surry Hills Peeps
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Do we all really NEED this information to play the game?

There is a point where over thinking and distraction start to take over I think. Surely if you have developed a strategy and have invested in it with conviction, then most of these questions that are being asked for absolute clarification are really not so relevant?

If your strategy is to buy up and dominate... then do that, if you do actually dominate, then no problems, you will promote (what does it matter who promotes with you?). The set of variables that YOU impose on yourself for this strategy are numerous; What if others in my league apply the same strategy and it gets ultra competitive/ expensive? Do I change strategy? Oh no, I haven't invested in the Arena, wasted heaps on dubious aged talent, missed out on time training trainees, slipped in the rankings, knocked out of the Cup, getting a decent draft pick now but haven't invested in any points to find a decent pick....the list goes on.

If you were tanking to get a better pick, this is simple, you are not effected in any way by promotion issues.

And then there are multiple other mixed strategies out there no doubt.

The way I look at it, we are supposed to be experienced managers in a very competitive new country, economies of scale apply. You could by chance, find yourself in a ultra competitive league or not, if your plan was to buy up some aged talent and compete and find yourself in the ultra competitive situation (like me, the most teams left in the Cup... and all from my conference!) then you might need to re evaluate.

I understand that some people are seeking just simple clarification on some issues/topics, but when it comes to responses containing sentiment that it is critical information or inferences that it will decay the game into anarchy... take a chill pill and just play the GAME

PS: I has been announced already that the remaining teams in Div IV will be re sorted to keep all the human managers in the same leagues as the promotions happen.

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257780.30 in reply to 257780.29
Date: 4/26/2014 7:20:00 PM
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Do we all really NEED this information to play the game?

take a chill pill and just play the GAME


Some of us think that they "need" or they can better see all possible options based on that information. I personally think that requested information might impact for my strategies in the end of this season and also for next season, just as you said to re-evaluate strategy. If you do not "need" that information and you do not enjoy "over thinking", it is your choice. You should also understand that some of us enjoy this game differently and maybe they don't enjoy advice from novice managers without any proof of success - no offense (maybe I'll take some other pills now ;).

Personally I think that rules should be clear from day 1 when Utopia started. That way no-one could say that they didn't know. So no harm to be precise in the rules either.

If you felt that my original post was rude, sorry for that. As you can see, English is not my native language so it is not so fluent and probably I cannot express myself with tone I would like to.


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257780.31 in reply to 257780.30
Date: 4/27/2014 11:30:34 PM
Surry Hills Peeps
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Firstly, I am sorry if you thought my inference was that you were being rude, I didn't think that at all. I am always conscious that many on this site do not have English as their native language. I also don't take any offense to shots at my intelligence through parallels to my length of tenure or trophies in this game as measurement

My point was around how large the statements are about the vitality of the information. I understand the intention to have the rules and guidelines defined so all can work around them, however; we are all it the same boat when you consider the answers given, the game won't fall into anarchy because some of the finer details are in flux about promotion.

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257780.32 in reply to 257780.31
Date: 4/28/2014 5:41:14 PM
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Well, according to all this, my last place team of homegrown Utopians probably won't promote.
Shoot.

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257780.33 in reply to 257780.32
Date: 4/28/2014 8:34:12 PM
Koopasaurus
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The tortoise did beat the hare in the end. Just remember the famous BB words. That BB is a marathon, not a race.

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257780.35 in reply to 257780.34
Date: 4/29/2014 6:20:52 AM
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The tortoise did beat the hare in the end. Just remember the famous BB words. That BB is a marathon, not a race.


That said, a marathon is also a race.

And the one who wins in the end is often part of the few men leading the race since the beginning

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257780.37 in reply to 257780.36
Date: 4/29/2014 7:37:13 AM
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It's just that BB doesnt have a goal line where it stops and we got one specific winner. We got like an never ending tour de france with different parts of the entire track.

A first division title might be considered a goal line, but I get your point

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257780.39 in reply to 257780.38
Date: 4/30/2014 4:00:38 AM
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... which is why knowing the promotion rules in advance is important (i cant undesrtand anyone challenge that).

So, i would love to know how it will work next season and the following : next season, league III will be full of 256 (16*16) utopists. At the end of next season, we will need 64 of them to promote from league III to league II, which is 4 per league III. How will these teams be replaced in league III ?

There are various possibilities, for instance :
- 1/ There will be 64 league IV. So you simply promote league IV champions AND no one is relegated from league III to league IV
- 2/ or you think 4 teams should be relegated from league III to league IV as usual and it opens 64 more spots for promoting from league IV to league III, with rules to be determined.

It has really an impact on the strategy : in case 1/, the door from league IV to league III "closes" next year and u are sure not to be relegated at the end of next season if u are in league III : it's a big incentive to try to promote this year. In case 2/ promoting at any price this season is riskier because the probability to demote the season after is high.

I understand BB tries to keep its options opened, but i think it would be fairer to all utopist to have some clarity one the rules

Thx in advance.

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