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From: ned
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Date: 8/20/2008 4:30:21 AM
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At the end I can say very good changes!

You can see my roster and the salary of my players, I'm in second division and I hope to get the break even point this week, otherwise I'll sell another player. With 200k/salary week you can still not lose money. I've seen some rosters of people posted here before me and I really can't understand why they can blame this new system.
Maybe you can't buy anymore players at 10 millions but some of you can still easily buy player at 5 millions, pls don't cry
This new change put me in trouble but I'm really so happy to face also this problem, only to train and buy is not good for me.

Good luck with your money sirs

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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Date: 8/20/2008 6:52:33 AM
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My country isn't big. In fact our total pool of users is about half the users currently online in Italy alone. The standard of play of the top league would probably be somewhere in between Div II and Div III in Italy. But unlike those playing in the lower rungs of the bigger leagues, we are encumbered with the 'income tax' designed to limit the financial power of bigger teams.
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But you dont'know that italian teams now are disadvantaged...in fact,menawhile in other conutries users widened palace,italian teams bought the best players and now have the smallest palace between the top leagues in the world...so now they lost more and more in comparison to you

From: Sparkle

To: ned
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45730.31 in reply to 45730.29
Date: 8/20/2008 8:34:10 AM
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With 200k/salary week you can still not lose money.


Bold statement, but incorect. I've trimmed my salaries down to under 110k in anticipation of the changes. If I were to set my player salaries at 200k per week, I'd be running at a definite loss. If you say you are running on a 200k per week salary expenditure and still manage a profit, then I guess you've just proven my point.

Steve, I don't understand you. Sorry.

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Date: 8/20/2008 9:10:08 AM
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A 25Kprofit for the 1st week - not including Cup and B3 income.

And thats with a 'poor' attendance in my 1st home game because of a loss i the 1st game.

It definately seems like loosing a game will not cost you nearly as much as last year.

Last season I had 1 loss and attendance dropped 3000. This season I opened with a loss and attendance was more than 2000 higher than after last seasons only loss.

From: ned

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Date: 8/20/2008 9:12:28 AM
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Spaz do u mean that you can't pay 110k salaries in first division with an arena of 12k???
I can't believe it; post your financial page cause really it's impossible for me to believe what you say. Of course nothing against you personally

I didn't say I'm making profit, but if I don't lose matches and if I will win in cup league, I should earn about 220-240k/week, I pay little bit more now but selling players (it's enough 1 player at 1 million) I can keep my balance "green"

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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Date: 8/20/2008 10:59:31 AM
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Spaz do u mean that you can't pay 110k salaries in first division with an arena of 12k???


I never said I can't pay 110k worth of salaries.
I said that with salaries at 200k per week, I will run into a loss every week. Which is true.


From: ned

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Date: 8/20/2008 11:37:05 AM
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Unbelievable for me, you're in first division and I've now to pay 238k/week in second division, sorry dude

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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Date: 8/20/2008 1:20:05 PM
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There was no way to predict the extent of the changes, but many people have come from HT and seen that for the game to have a future, something like this needed to be done. The BBs had to put in place some global economic cutbacks for the game to survive. Simple.

And losing half my income doesn't destroy my plans. Yes, they are dented, but I always plan for the unexpected or have a contingency, so all I had to do was modify my plans a bit. Instead of buying a good SF, I invested in the arena so I could compete in the future. You think real life managers don't do the same thing?

As I said, I'm +$100k this week. If I sell out when my new arena is built, I'll be +$150k per week. You don't think that this is good management if I can still turn over this sort of profit after the economic cutbacks?

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Date: 8/20/2008 5:24:16 PM
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Isn't the alternative run-away inflation? I hardly think that's good for the game.

I'm sure the BB will ease the tax rate as the salaries at top level clubs increase.


Steve

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Date: 8/20/2008 7:16:56 PM
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well when i was in lower divisions i allways said that the income in the top division is to high, so people from lower leagues have not a big chance to go up, they changed that somehow, only prob i promoted to topdiv.this season ;)

From: Sparkle

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Date: 8/20/2008 11:34:47 PM
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Unbelievable for me, you're in first division and I've now to pay 238k/week in second division, sorry dude :)

That proves your second division is better than our first. ;)
Everybody is saying that Div I STH makes up for the difference, but our attendance is similar which means you earn more because I pay higher taxes being in Div I. The fact that your arena maxed out (You really need more seats), means you could go potentially higher than me. Raking in even more cash.

Let me do the match for you with my salaries at 200k :

Income
Match revenue - 180k
TV Contract - 35k
Merchandise - 45k

Total - 260k

Expenditure
Salaries - 200k
Staff - 53k
Scouting costs - 20k

Total - 273k

Net Profit/Loss - (13k)


Isn't the alternative run-away inflation? I hardly think that's good for the game.

I'm not questioning the objective of the changes. Just the way it is being implemented to achieve the objective. There has to be a better way to do this. If you country has inflation problems stemming from a small rich community, there has to be a better way of doing it than slashing everyone's income by 40%.

Last edited by Sparkle at 8/20/2008 11:43:59 PM

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