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51081.29 in reply to 51081.27
Date: 9/24/2008 6:50:27 PM
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If you ask me, the number of skilled players a team is in a position to offer on the market per season is one of the main issues that still hasn't been addressed.


It appears you only have 3 skilled players. And you're dominating your country's top division.

Seems to me anything you say to managers who are experiencing economic problems can be quite readily discarded.

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51081.31 in reply to 51081.29
Date: 9/24/2008 6:58:34 PM
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If you ask me, the number of skilled players a team is in a position to offer on the market per season is one of the main issues that still hasn't been addressed.


It appears you only have 3 skilled players. And you're dominating your country's top division.

Seems to me anything you say to managers who are experiencing economic problems can be quite readily discarded.


That's ridiculous in multiple ways.

You don't need a 5-digit salary to be a contributor in all but the largest countries' top divisions.

And someone can only have a reasoned opinion about something they're directly experiencing? Hey, look, that guy just got a sledgehammer in the nuts. It sure looks like it hurt, but I think I'll withhold my opinion until it happens to me.

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51081.32 in reply to 51081.17
Date: 9/25/2008 1:43:59 PM
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Cup winner goes into BBB, don't they? Extra money there?

Cup winner does go into B3. The money there has been cut too, by the way.

Well, that decides my team attitude for this evening's cup tie. Thanks

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51081.33 in reply to 51081.30
Date: 9/25/2008 3:47:31 PM
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I think the point that was being made by the original poster is by someone who is dealing with the crunch of having to look at competing in the next upper division next year but dealing with this years income. You have it easy, sir, in that your country doesn't have the same kind of competition that other larger ones do so you don't need to necessarily put the same amount of talent on your team to succeed. But even with your smaller user base and weaker division, you get the same income. I call bumpkiss.

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51081.34 in reply to 51081.31
Date: 9/26/2008 8:03:37 AM
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^^what that guy said.

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51081.35 in reply to 51081.31
Date: 9/26/2008 10:01:23 AM
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If you ask me, the number of skilled players a team is in a position to offer on the market per season is one of the main issues that still hasn't been addressed.


It appears you only have 3 skilled players. And you're dominating your country's top division.

Seems to me anything you say to managers who are experiencing economic problems can be quite readily discarded.


That's ridiculous in multiple ways.

You don't need a 5-digit salary to be a contributor in all but the largest countries' top divisions.

And someone can only have a reasoned opinion about something they're directly experiencing? Hey, look, that guy just got a sledgehammer in the nuts. It sure looks like it hurt, but I think I'll withhold my opinion until it happens to me.

You've never been hit in the nuts with anything before?

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51081.36 in reply to 51081.35
Date: 9/26/2008 11:16:12 AM
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Sure, but not a sledgehammer.

/updates "bucket list"

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51081.37 in reply to 51081.36
Date: 9/26/2008 12:35:48 PM
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/updates "bucket list"

Ha! :)

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51081.38 in reply to 51081.37
Date: 9/26/2008 2:11:34 PM
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Unfortunately, I guess the point I was trying think about was lost.

Basically, for a team thats turning a profit each week, there is no value in the cup other than a chance at a small amount of change, and maybe an enthusiasm point. The first 4 weeks of the cup the payout was I believe $20k? So basically a win would cover one staff member, or maybe a player for that week? Nothing to write home about.

So far if memory serves, the first 4 weeks were 20k, then a 30 and a 35k? For a grand total of $145k profit.

In that time I have risked starting players injury and game shape to make a cup run, and so far I have been lucky enough to face mainly div 4, a div2 team that was focusing on winning his division and now things get tougher.

The original question was....If I am turning a profit each week and out of the cup. I could be just throwing in non starters...only trainees. If I had a coupel decent draftees to train, in the 4-5 weeks I was messing around in the cup, I could ahve been getting solid training minutes for that trainee and getting training jumps on them. So I am increasing the depth of my bench and perhaps working on a player that I could sell at the end of the season for more than I got out of the cup, not risked the injury, would have had decent game shape.

I guess the question is, where is the value in the cup? Theres not much there to make the risks worth the reward? I am looking at it from the point of view of someone thats turning a profit and trying to make it to the next division, it seems like the cup is more of a distraction and there is more to be gained from a better training table and less risk to starters?

edit: Also, and I dont know why the game teases like this but I get a jump in attendance for cup games that goes back down to what I would call my baseline attendance for a game that I see no gate money from. Thanks for that...

Last edited by vballkid69 at 9/26/2008 2:13:12 PM

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51081.39 in reply to 51081.38
Date: 9/26/2008 6:04:10 PM
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As a matter of priority for you, your league is more important and your trainees are also more important than the revenue from the cup. Especially with the gimped "welcome to the current US economy" rewards. Always try for optimal training minutes for all of your players you are working on, you know that.

I believe there is a cash prize for the cup this year, possibly not. If you do win, you get to go head to head with the top teams from the world. Ask yourself, do I even want that? I dont just yet and I dont believe you do either.

Focus on promotion mate, the rewards are more important. And its basically a scrimmage with rewards, so the economy is just extra, if you can't make it without the cash you were messing up to begin with which I dont think you are.

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