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VOTE FOR GODBEAR!!!

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I'm fairly sure it's an intelligent enough question to warrant an answer from someone...
From what's being said here it seems that the consensus from all the candidates is that a main obsticle to success is the lack of a 18/18/18ish big man. And that such a big man is not likely to be trained in the near future since foreign owners don't want to train the prospects, and USA I.1 is too competative for an owner to take on the financial risk and train such a player.

So, let's say that, without a big dollop of luck, such big men will not be a reality for the team anytime soon. My question to the candidates is,
1) What are the ideal G / SF prototypes to cover/compliment for our existing frontcourt deficiancies?
2) If such players don't exist now, how would you encourage their training by U21 grads or others so that they exist a few seasons down the line?


Group hug!
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Traitor

And to think I was gonna start Aindow at SF

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1) I don't think that there is a prototype G or SF that can realistically make up for our lack of a true NT tree.
2) I think the only way to truly hold and keep a player that would suit our needs is to have a experienced manager who is getting tired of the game take a hit for the team and maintain such a player for us.

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2) I think the only way to truly hold and keep a player that would suit our needs is to have a experienced manager who is getting tired of the game take a hit for the team and maintain such a player for us.


I imagine we might be able to find someone like this if we start asking around...

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Aww hell, there goes the neighborhood! Who invited this guy into our NT forum!!!

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Unfortunately I'm going away on a bachelor party this weekend to Montreal starting tonight, so since I'll be out of the country I'm gonna post a similar fact summary and just let it ride.


Now we cant have canidates going out on all night drinking binges during an election. Or are you going to use the "We are just 4 guys, in the desert, looking for strippers and cocaine" excuse?

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Does it matter I'm in a lower division. And you would not even do a thing instead of being NT manger take care of your garbage team first.

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Ya I am with you TheBanks

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Thank you.

From: Jason

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My vote will go with Namssor. I respect GM-Jason and Oriolekid as managers but they have many strikes against them compared to a long time, experienced user like Namssor.

1.) They have only been around for a handful of seasons so they simply don't have the same level of experience.

2.) Playing in the NBBA, Namssor already has experienced evaluating high level players and playing against high level competition. . How will they be able to properly evaluate players with 300k+ in salary?

3.) . Jason, has almost exclusively played one tactic throughout his BB career, . In fact this quote from Jason seems to confirm that he still has one track mind when it comes to tactics:

4.) Another strike against Jason is that he has just recently become involved with the NT community. Sure he may be a dedicated manager for the NT, but he may also lose interest in the NT just as fast as he gained it.

Some interesting thoughts Smedlock....Let me address your comments point by point....

1. I think it can be argued that in my nearly 5 seasons of experience i have packed more into that than just about anyone else. Combining my teams amazing success, the Elite level coaches that have mentored me, my Private Leagues, Private League Networks and the handful of people I have personally mentored, I am not lacking for experience. As much time as I spend on BB, its as if I have been playing this game since the beginning.

2. I think you make somewhat of a good point here. I was speaking about this with a friend yesterday, and based on the actual players I have had, and played against, I would be even more suited as the U21 coach in that regard. However, I understand the games, the ratings, the players, the strategies as well as anyone, so while I agree you have a good point on this, I dont see it as a real concern or that it will be problematic for me.

3. When i first started in BB, I was a RnG/Motion team. Then everone started playing my 3-2 and i noticed my scoring slowed a bit. So I added some bigs, and became more balanced. However, as I developed that, I started seeing the benefits of being an inside team from all 5 positions on the court, and have built what has been an unstoppable inside team at every level I have played at so far. You may look at that as a negative and see that I have a one track mind, but I believe its a strength. I don't simply play Look Inside mostly because its all I know. I have bult a true Look Inside team. If you are going to use my team, and my strategies as a knock against me, well that sort of backfires when you consider that I have had the highest PD each of the last two seasons, have gone 43-1 in those two seasons, won 2 championships in those two seasons, promoted in each of those two seasons, and are currently on a 44 home game win streak. My one trick pony show seems to be serving my team quite welll :-) Two of the teams I am mentoring are Rng/Motion teams...another is also a Look Inside team. I know and undestand the tactics quite well.

4. Please don't tell me that an effort to sway voters against me you are now relying on crystal ball tactics? Sheesh, Smedlock the Magician...Step into his cave and he will predict the future! :-) Come on my friend, you know me better than that! When have you seen me commit to one thing in BB that I lost interest in? Better yet, when have you seen me commit to one thing in BB that I did't not only completely dive into, but excel at?

If you all want to vote for an NT coach, that is not only commited to the program, but has every intention on on keeping it going in the right direction, and winning World Championships, vote for me!! I have every intention of doing so well as NT coach, adding to and building to this program, that I will want to be the NT coach for the next 10 seasons. I am in this for the long haul. Vote for GM-Jason!

Last edited by Jason at 7/28/2011 1:18:55 PM

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