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84879.294 in reply to 84879.293
Date: 5/7/2010 10:50:06 AM
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Yeah after 2 bad drafts investing the maximum and not getting a good pick i've lowered my expectations and i'm only doing 10k this season.

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Date: 5/7/2010 10:56:05 AM
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Likewise...the draft is so unpredictable.

Just when you think u have decent player based on the balls, you can still be screwed over after discovering his height when you draft him

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Date: 5/7/2010 7:35:06 PM
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IMO, when it comes to youth, it doesn't hurt to spend on the market if you are going to train up. Johnson would have sold for around $500k when drafted and I wouldn't put him on the market for less than $4 mill 3 years later. The same season I bought another young SG who was decent value at $70k to train with him. At the start of the next season I sold him for $900k. This year I bought a 19 SF prospect with HOF potential (shame he isn't australian!) who needed some outside training. He cost $300k and his transfer estimate half a season later is $1 050 000 to $ 2 500 000.

I got lucky getting Johnson as pick 12, and I think the main reason was being in div3 with a lot more less actives, but I would much rather not scout and just save the money and pay for a player I know I want. I will be hassling players who draft quality big men in a season or 2 when Johnson is capped so I can train my SF in inside stuff and also pay off a lower ranked team who would most likely just waste a future national team talent. Much cheaper and effective than gambling on the draft.

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84879.297 in reply to 84879.296
Date: 5/7/2010 9:15:13 PM
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Yeah i've come to realise the same thing lower ranked teams often end up with good draft prosepcts and are more willing to sell them.

From: yodabig

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Date: 5/8/2010 6:59:50 AM
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...and that same team also had a 21yo Hall of Famer and a 19 year old Superstar (who was ALSO a PG!). How disgusting is that? I mentored new teams in my old division last season and most had one trainable player at most while this guy gets 4 crazy good ones? Even better in the draft they picked up another insane PG...

Tully Braithwaite (13435335) Point Guard
Owner: Danyle Star
Weekly salary: $ 3 949
DMI: 46400
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: proficient

I admit I have had some massive luck in the draft but this team is just way too lucky. To start with a player you can sell right away for $3,000,000 is just wrong and really can ruin balance in the game.

This is a 1 minute survey of my old leagues bottom 8 teams and the non-drafted 18-19 year olds some of the teams have
jacobsd.league 18 starter $2000 salary and 18 6th man $2000 salary.
The wild bulls 19 6th man 4000 19 role player 3000 and 19 star 4000
Macktown Steamrollers 19 6th man $3000 and 19 MVP $4000 first good not great one
The Bears 18 star $4000 and that is it!
the american heat 18 bench warmer $2000 wow welcome to buzzer beater
Blazing Lamas 18 perennial allstar oh yeah...salary $2651, 18 starter $1656 and finally a bomb - 18 HoF $ 4361.
30 sixers 4 young guns - awesome hey? 18 starter $2000, 18 role player $2000 18 role player $3000 and 19 all star $3000.
RazzleDazzle 18 bench warmer $2000, 19 6th man $2500 and 19 starter $4657.

How is this fair? Teams are not starting from a level playing field. I had a decent start with an 18 all star $4000 worth $100,000 at the time. But what amount of skillful play can make up for starting with a $2000 bench warmer while others start with a $6000 MVP?

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84879.299 in reply to 84879.298
Date: 5/8/2010 7:04:53 AM
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I agree it is unfair, but the draft can be unfair too. And both are essentially based on complete randomness and luck. So unless they make it that each team starts with the same players, or no player is above 3k salary or something, it will always be luck that determines how well teams start.

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84879.300 in reply to 84879.299
Date: 5/8/2010 7:09:28 AM
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Hey all, doing some early scouting for next season (due to popular demand) so if you have a 20 yo who you think is in with a show for next seasons team, please give a message with his attributes.

Cheers

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84879.301 in reply to 84879.298
Date: 5/8/2010 10:51:02 AM
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Go tell Cleveland it's unfair they signed LeBron ;-)

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84879.302 in reply to 84879.301
Date: 5/8/2010 6:55:31 PM
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i think that was a draft pick which is not being complained about even in the case of chicago who utterly lucked into rose

i think it is the players you are 'given' that is the problem

that is more like pau gasol and a championship being given to the lakers for worthless rubbish that is the sort of thing that annoys everyone

there was also a trade phoenix did a while ago something like an ok player with a bad contract and 2 first round draft picks for a second round draft pick yeah the suns had to do it to shed salary but what a gift

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Date: 5/14/2010 4:27:11 AM
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Owner: Viral Infections

Weekly salary: $ 6 026

DMI: 57600
Age: 18
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: pitiful Handling: strong ↑
Driving: inept ↑ Passing: inept
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: awful Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: pitiful


Hopefully he is on his way to making the U21 NT team in a few seasons :)

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Date: 5/14/2010 5:08:27 AM
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Nice work so far Naker, i'm excited to see this guy when his 21. Remember get guard skills in him early then inside skills to make him a great all round C, plus you don't want salary too high because of his potential. Keep up the good work!

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