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I think some people are just more lucky than others. Here are some of my better draft picks:

Season 10
Kent Masters (12019972)
Point Guard
Owner: Chelsea Seagulls
Weekly salary: $ 20 711
Age: 24
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: perennial allstar

Greg Kneale (12019998)
Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 17 827
Age: 23
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: starter

Season 11
Hasmawi Mahmood (13436089)
Center
Weekly salary: $ 77 820
Age: 22
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: perennial allstar

Wazza Tickle (13436121)
Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 17 961
Age: 22
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: starter
For sale for $1,200,000 right now.

Season 12
Peni Lucas (14843945)
Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 15 726
Age: 21
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: superstar

Since then the well has been a bit dry as I have had late picks and the new system means the good players are much easier to identify. There have also been a couple of seasons in division II when there just wasn't much in the draft. So I do like the draft and it can be good. I am basically a PF short of having a team that could win some games in division II just with my draft picks.

keep in mind that if you had kept them, theres no way you can train them all together.

I was pretty lucky last season, won the title, had the worst pick and came away with one of the best picks!

Weekly salary: $ 3 455
Role: backup
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DMI: 16500
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: superstar

Now he isn't anywhere near good enough to play, and he won't be good enough for another 2-3 seasons either...so yeah draftees in this division are pretty useless for most of you. But for me, a gold draftee this season will be VERY useful in my attempt at either returning to the divison, or strengthening my side and consolidating.

I'm hoping to get someone to train up as a shooting guard.

I just regret all the potential superstars that came through my team, in the years that they seemed to be abundant in drafts. They could have been awesome but I had no direction or knowledge how to train them. I've put a lot of work into my current 20yo trainee Ostolaza and he's still 2-3 seasons from getting to where I invisioned him 3 seasons a go.

I have not even bothered with the draft since the new system came in, maybe this season i'll fluke something worth keeping. Not that I have room to train anyone anyway.

But if you happen to be the shock relegation from reds this season, you will have a lot of space to train, cos you won't be able to play your team the way it stands now in div III! :P

Not that I believe you are any chance of demoting!

Myself on the other hand, I'm worried now I have overbought, and won't be able to afford these guys next season. Especially with the penalty to crowds after demotion.

Someone with more experience than I, would have to tell me what I could expect in terms of income in divIII after demotion.

Well I was relegated after season 12. I was a bit too fast promoting. I started in season 10 in division IV.7 was undefeated the entire season, then went to division III.6 where I unexpectedly won and was promoted to II.4. There I had a MASSIVE income and spent every cent fighting to survive, a battle that went down to the last week of the season. So when I was relegated I had the team I had with no money at all and had to sell Peni Lucas my draft pick to stay financially afloat. My income was much WORSE than my first time in division III despite a much bigger stadium. My season ticket holders had abandoned me in droves. I had another undefeated season but despite thst made no money for then two seasons in a row. I should have sold some guys and tried to win with a lesser team but prices started going crazy about then. I had bought at the peak, when 30 year old big men with proficient skills were $600,000 and my expensive players were rapidly becomming worth much much less.

So while you still have the revenue I would try to fill your tean with effecient but cost effective players. If I was suddenly faced with relegation I would trim my team down to this:

PG - 3 trainees at least one who can be good in the best game of the week. 5k, 10k and 20k.
SG - Solid starter 30k.
SF - this is the most cost effective position and one where you can dominate the others 40k.
PF - but weaker on the primaries and better on the secondaries. A PF with good JS, JR, OD and PA will be as effective as one twice his cost with +2 in all primaries but all atrocious secondaries. 30k.
C - May have to spend bigger here as you will want someone with great primaries so you can LI yourself and defend those that want to LI you. 50k.
A backup swingman who can play all of PG, SG and SF but max 10k.
A backup bigman with good secondaries so a PF not a C. Max 10k.

That seems low compared to here but that is 200k and I think that would be all you could afford and still make a little money so you could buy one more guy for the playoffs if there is an injury or you need a boost against your biggest rival. Be aware that there are some division III teams with much higher wages than this, but I don't know how they do it.

There must be others that have been relegated who can recount their experience. I just know I bounced down and did everything to bounce right back.

Interesting read, and thanks for the reply.

I found it very enlightening/surprising that you think a 200k roster would be enough to get back up to div II after dropping to div III.

This could be the case. However when you do get back up the 200k team would not be enough to compete.

I currently have a 215k roster, but I am without support in all positions. I could perhaps, and likely will end up selling Malbasa, as his PF skills are letting him down this season. I intend to crank out secondaries from now, but it may not be enough, and his salary will put me above any kind of sustainable level in div III. Both Isaak and Malbasa will both increase easily above 50k next season I would think.

There are easier div III leagues around, but I'm sure that there are some who would give me a run for my money, my last league are sure they could compete. I'm not convinced they have grown enough to do it as I won last season comfortably. rProof will be in the pudding I guess, and I will have to see what this season brings now that I actually have a team to compete!

Sure some leagues like III.6 and III.10 have multiple teams that would be mid-level division II already, but there are others where the teams look mostly pitiful. There is always a lot of fear of an active demoted division II team managed by a competent manager as no-one knows how much cash they have and the fear factor can cause some teams to not try.

yeah, Im hoping peeps see my roster, after I've cut the dead wood, and then all pee their pants in fear and give me the easy wins! If only life and BB were so easy though! :P

Yoda what a brilliant insight- how brilliant are you?

I've learned this season the hard way that Buzzer Beater is actually a "Basketball Management Game" and that the "Russian Roulette" approach of big spending is not sustainable.

A 300K player is not necessarily better that a 120K player, except that he can be a little bit more intimidating to other Managers or if the 120K players is Smeltz

Any advise to an old friend on the structure of the roster that I will need to be competitive & sustainable when I drop back into II.3?



Last edited by Sid Vicious at 6/18/2011 9:59:00 AM

I can't tell if you are joking or not. First lets see if you can survive the ABBL. A couple of key injuries to a close rival and anything is possible.