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211894.3 in reply to 211894.1
Date: 3/3/2012 8:26:08 AM
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Don't let the GMs read this

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Date: 3/3/2012 3:32:10 PM
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Why? I thought it was acceptable to list players that are on sale in the forums as long as you dont use their names, send a link to that player, or what team their on. He just has them listed as PLAYER 1 and PLAYER 2.. This is fine correct? Or have i been misinformed?

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Date: 3/3/2012 10:54:02 PM
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Hmm.. now I'm confused. I'm not sure, but I think you are right. I think if the names are not posted then it is ok. I just though it was against the rules to ASK for a TPE. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Date: 3/4/2012 1:12:36 AM
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The OP isn't asking for a TPE though. The question is more aimed at how the TPE is calculated and why there is a difference for the 2 players.

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Date: 3/4/2012 10:25:08 AM
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player 2 has 2 more inches to give !

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Date: 3/4/2012 12:36:54 PM
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As long as it just focus on one skill, potential and age it will never be accurate.


Well I'm not sure I entirely agree with this.

I mean, based on one skill, potential and age the system narrows down the field to the same 9 players.
After that, there is an attempt to narrow the options even more, as the sentence "the ones with skills most similar to xxx" suggests. That's where the discrepancy between the two players arises. In this passage, there's obviously something wrong.

Now, I don't want to complain too much about a system that, overall, mostly works.
Nevertheless, TPE can have a big impact on the offers for a player, even if more experienced managers will surely be able to recognize his proper value.
In that respect, even the overbidding warning doesn't help. When one reads "It is against BuzzerBeater rules to bid above market rates on a player.", he/she may be led to assume that bidding higher than the TPE is really a bad, dangerous idea.

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Date: 3/4/2012 12:41:20 PM
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"With skills similar to" is the key phrase there, I would imagine. Identical age, potential and skill to be graded on. That is the only variable.

I am not sure how the transfer market engine does estimates, nor am I aware of anyone who has done a study. Salary would be a good guess to why they are different. You also have to understand that this estimate can only go off of similar players sold and is not necessarily a players actual worth in the market. It is an inexact science. Maybe someone overbid a bit on a similar player to "player 2" and that makes his TPE a bit high, while similar transfers to "player 1" were on slow hours/days and were sold for lower prices as a result.

I always laugh when I look at the market and see a mediocre player for a ridiculous sum on the market, then look at the players TPE and the upside matches the set opening bid. I wonder what would happen if the TPE was raised by 10% just for a week. It would probably result in fewer players being sold, but would be an interesting study because I think a lot of players use it as a tool to set prices AND reference point when purchasing players.

At any rate, it isn't broken, just needs to be taken with a grain of salt because of the parameters it uses.

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Date: 3/4/2012 4:16:36 PM
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I've always thought of the TPE as an interesting and valuable market guide, but when it comes down to it, a player could (and should) go for way more or less than their TPE based on current market factors. By current market factors, I'm not including when someone overpays to buy a scrub from their buddy. That should be discouraged.

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Date: 3/4/2012 4:35:52 PM
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I have a player right now that I'm NOT selling because of his TPE. It is way lower than he is actually worth and I don't want it to bring the price down

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