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Date: 3/27/2012 5:58:38 AM
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Potential doesn't affect training speed until they reach their skill limit.

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From the Game Manual:
Potential acts as a "soft" cap on ratings, meaning that a player who has trained to his full potential may still improve, but will improve much more slowly than a player who has not yet reached his potential.
This means that the only thing potential does is create a soft cap on how good a player can become. Once that cap is reached, he will become better at a much slower rate. It has no effect whatsoever on in game performance, only on how good they can become through training. Hope that explains it.

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Do you maybe know what is the year limit for superstar and MVP. And on what age superstars and MVPs start to slow down with training. I read this on some topics 5 or 6 seasons ago but I forgot it :)

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Date: 4/18/2012 7:35:07 PM
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all players slow down at the same age.
Slow down in training is related to potential.
Superstars slow down before MVP
you need to read up on it

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all players slow down at the same age.


Superstars slow down before MVP


I am sorry but I don't understand this? I know that superstar start to slow down before MVP but how long can MVP go before I start to notice his regression. I am quiet sure that for example allstar after the age of 21 start to slow down with ups and superstar on age 22 has same number of skills like one season before so there must bi some scale based on potential. Like I said few seasons ago I cross over some topic on this Global Forum but I can't find it now.

I remember only that all players younger that 21 and with potential bigger then 5(star) have the same progress but after that I forgot it. Maybe superstar goes to 23 without problem MVP to 24,25 and HOF 25,26.

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Things that affect training speed are:
1. Age ( The younger the faster )
2. Height ( eg: Taller players train RB faster than shorter ones / Shorter players train OD faster than taller ones )

Potential is something like a limit as to how good/how much training can your player receive, the higher the potential, the player can be trained to a higher degree.
Potential only causes training to slow down/stop only when your player caps his potential.

You can manually calculate the rough estimates of the cap of the potential using Josef Ka's formula: (188524.1)
or you could use the tools>salary calculator in http://www.buzzer-manager.com to do it for you

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I am scanning this Jozef K topic and I again can't find answer of my question, because in 11 seasons of my playing I was always thought that if you train allstar and superstar at the age of 23 with same skills, allstar won't be able to up although he didn't reached his potential cap so I concluded that age and potential is tight connected and again I say that I am quiet sure that there must be some scale of potential/age.

the higher the potential, the player can be trained to a higher degree.


And according to this sentence allstar will up at the age of 23, because he didn't reached his potential cap.

So there must be some year cap for every potential.

So there must be some misunderstanding between us :) But in every case, thank you!

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Date: 4/19/2012 9:43:45 AM
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The only things potential does are:
1. inflate prices on the transfer market! ;)
2. determine how much skill a player can have before he is capped.

The jozefK topic gives some good numbers on how the caps may be calculated. Essentially, the potential determines the maximum sum that can be reached for the player before the training is slowed because of the soft cap. But it's not directly linked to age; a 25 year old player with starter potential who has received little training could arguably might not have hit the cap, while a 23 year old all star may already have been capped. You would need to know the players' skills and plug them into the formula to determine whether the player is capped or not.

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But you can't train that 25 starter player at that age he won't be able to get a single up although he hasn't reached his potential cap! Is this true or not? So age must be connected to the potential.

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But you can't train that 25 starter player at that age he won't be able to get a single up although he hasn't reached his potential cap! Is this true or not? So age must be connected to the potential.


He'll train slower than he would if he's 18 because he's older. But if his skills haven't reached the potential cap, he'll train just as fast (or slow) as if his potential were MVP. Potential sets the ceiling, and age/trainer level/elastic effect, etc of training affects how fast you get to that ceiling.

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