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222974.3 in reply to 222974.2
Date: 8/5/2012 6:06:27 AM
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The bolded part relates to this next link which is filled with just that kind of odd statements:

"I don't think steroids are used much, if at all, in our league," said Rudy Gay of Memphis. "
"..His thinking -- and he's not alone among the NBA players I spoke with -- is that because there is so much running and jumping (unlike in baseball) along with a lengthy season and numerous games (unlike football) steroids would speed the breaking down of knees and other joints..."

"Honestly I don't think steroid use happens in basketball at all or not too much," said Minnesota's Gerald Green. "You'd get hurt too much because we play so many games."

Green has another reason for thinking steroid use is practically nonexistent in basketball. "Steroids make you too big," he said. "You need to be fluid to play basketball. You'd be too slow if you used steroids in the NBA."

..So while I'm certain there are at least some NBA players using steroids, it's likely nothing like baseball. It seems safe to assume Stern won't be doing battle with Dan Burton on Capitol Hill anytime soon..."

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/10648024/1


"..Here's how it works in sports. Players will do whatever they can to achieve victory, which is why well-defined and strictly enforced rules are the sine qua non of all sports. The rules clearly prohibit the use of performance-enhancing drugs, but the incentive to dope is powerful because the drugs are extremely effective, the payoffs for success are so high, and most of the drugs are difficult if not impossible to detect. If tests can be beaten with countermeasures, or if the governing body of the sport doesn't fully support a comprehensive anti-doping testing program (as in the case of Major League Baseball and the National Football League), the incentive to cheat increases. Once a few elite athletes in a sport cheat, their competitors must also cheat (even if they only suspect others are doping), leading to a cascade of cheating through the ranks..."

The testing in the NBA is as i understand it really weak and could easily be mentioned along with Major League Baseball or the National Football League.

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222974.4 in reply to 222974.3
Date: 8/5/2012 6:07:56 AM
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I forgot the link to the above quote:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/02/opinion/la-oe-070...

So yeah, i think the NBA has some issues to deal with. Only, i´m not to sure anyone in the NBA wants to deal with something like that.


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222974.5 in reply to 222974.1
Date: 8/5/2012 10:53:15 AM
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i also believe there is some drug use going around in the NBA, afaik the punishment is really low(10 games?) and they don't test during the off season.(no blood tests)

Also we have plenty of players who are really strong in very young years, yes they are excellent athletes and put lot of effort in but for me some of them look unreal and hard to explain with effort only. Also some player gain lot of weigth during off season without getting fat, especially some player in europe catch up in terms of muscles.

But even with drugs they would be great athletes for me.

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Date: 8/5/2012 4:15:04 PM
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Also some player gain lot of weigth during off season without getting fat, especially some player in europe catch up in terms of muscles.



This is interesting. Do you have some examples of European players bulking up?

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Date: 8/6/2012 3:22:55 AM
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i try to look out for it, i remember some examples while discussing nba chanches of a german talent in a basketball forum but the thread is quite big.

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222974.8 in reply to 222974.1
Date: 8/7/2012 11:03:11 AM
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aight Dwyane... Ask your new teammate Rashard where his game went after he got busted.

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222974.9 in reply to 222974.8
Date: 8/8/2012 2:22:27 AM
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I wouldn't be surprise if there are some player using PED, but not like it used to be in Baseball and some other sportsl. Do I think there are a lot of players smoking weed though...you bet!

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Date: 8/8/2012 5:15:27 AM
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I wouldn't be surprise if there are some player using PED, but not like it used to be in Baseball and some other sportsl.


But why not? :)
It´s not like they don´t have a lot of incentive to do it, and very little chance of ever getting caught.



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222974.11 in reply to 222974.10
Date: 8/8/2012 7:22:13 AM
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They use PEDs most of the time, not to be better on the court, but to recovery faster...imagine those huge bodies to play 3-4 games in a week plus all that traveling...Some rumors where saying that the kidney problems that Moorning had where connected with that kind of PEDs...

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Date: 8/10/2012 7:23:10 AM
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They use PEDs most of the time, not to be better on the court, but to recovery faster...imagine those huge bodies to play 3-4 games in a week plus all that traveling...Some rumors where saying that the kidney problems that Moorning had where connected with that kind of PEDs...


Thats why most athletes... save Olympic track/swimmer people, and NFL football people. use steroids, the recovery.

Pitchers use steroids 200% as much as hitters, but honestly, nobody cares when a pitcher juices except for Clemens. People don't want to admit, even if Clemens did't juice, he'd still have thrown that hard at an old age (for reference, check Nolan Ryan, Sandy Koufax, Randy Johnson), but... he probably wouldn't have been pitching near as many innings as he did in fairness.

Being an ex-mlb minor league player myself, my personal philosophy. "I would like to see all steroid users, caught, proven, etc. Banned. Like, Joe Jackson, Pete Rose kind of banned. permanently. What defiles the game more? Betting your team will win? Being accused of throwing a world series, or knowing teammates were and not doing anything? Or, breaking records, and getting your name in history books, having all your memorbilia (which is like stock practically) soar in value? Bonds was a 500/500 guy before steroids... he was already HOF, but he got jealous of McGwire and Sosa crap being worth more, and getting more publicity, so he juices. Now he's a disgrace. Bud Selig's inconsistencies with everything is single handedly helping ruin baseball. Ppl are starting to accuse Rickey Henderson of juicing now... Rickey! If Rickey was juicing I'll give my paycheck to Bud Selig personally!

Strike them all from the books, ban them from the leagues, (bonds, palmerio, sosa, mcgwire, grimsey, clemens, braun, ramirez, caminitti, giambi, etc. etc. tulo once hes caught), and bring up minor leaguers/college players/etc that have a respect for the game. Game will be just as interesting to watch, if not more. What they did was way worse than Pete Rose...

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222974.13 in reply to 222974.12
Date: 8/10/2012 3:25:50 PM
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I can get your point, but you are talking to me about a sport that i dont even know the rules unfortunately...i tried really hard to watch some games, but it was so boooring for me...

Last edited by JohnnyB at 8/11/2012 1:29:23 AM

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