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From: FuriousSK

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229255.4 in reply to 229255.3
Date: 11/5/2012 1:47:59 AM
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the best market right now is on young talent, 18 specifically, that is between 8 and 14 skill points behind what i'd consider the low point of a NT caliber player in most competitive countries. i've spent about 315k on 2 players that i'd otherwise have spent about 750k on.

From: Robard

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229255.7 in reply to 229255.6
Date: 11/5/2012 11:34:13 AM
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1. Dont bid because you are "stealing players from PO contenders" is not a valid argument for an open market.
2. Dont bid because they are overpriced is a valid argument. (and they can be overpriced because people bid against desperate PO contenders ;)

"You won't be playing any important games so you don't need to spend money on a player yet."
This would only be true if the market would be able to supply all types of players at all times, which it does not.
If your "Dream-player" pops up on TL, bid.

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229255.8 in reply to 229255.6
Date: 11/5/2012 12:16:43 PM
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A couple of items you have not taken into account
Teams may already be setting up for the next season even if they are out of the PO.
Also remember, those of us that are out of it don't have to worry about paying salaries
so we can take on contracts now, easier than playoff teams.
A good transfer is a good transfer.
People should NEVER keep off shopping.
Those in contention would have been wise to buy last week
absorb an extra week of salary without the burden of extra pushed up prices

From: FuriousSK

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229255.9 in reply to 229255.5
Date: 11/5/2012 4:19:01 PM
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I don't think the transfer list is that daunting a tool for a new team to grasp. i think talent development is far more scary for the untrained person.

I often tell anyone who asks me for advice and/or basic mentoring that they should ignore the listed market value for a player. I suggest that they keep an eye open at all times for any talent, but at the end of the day that there are reasons for why a veteran is cheaper in the middle of the season than at the start or right before the playoff deadline. Additionally, i explain that a loss in potential pops in the age 18 year for talent causes several higher division teams to begin ignoring certain young talents in the development portion of the TL, and therefore the later the season goes on the more likely a developmental talent comes along that is affordable to even a D.5 team and can make an impact through division 3. This advice also includes NEVER putting a position in the TL box (because you can do it more on height or on specific qualifiers in certain parts of the players game, and you'll not miss out on that 6'2" SF that has inside secondaries worth your while and a good starting point on the outside that will only get better).

Teaching a new player the TL, whether you're a talent development enthusiast or a fast veteran climber type, is typically where i start. Game shape and lineup strats are helpful too.

From: FuriousSK

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229255.11 in reply to 229255.10
Date: 11/5/2012 7:28:34 PM
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I could easily just sell 3 of my players (lets say Yuce Bekdemer, Runyon, and Metcalf), and end up close to even. Whether or not i sit at -1m or even or +1m is only a signal of whether or not i'm spending time trying to play the market, which has less to do with direct amounts of cash spent and more to do with salary. I'd gladly not play the market, where i would have to make at least 30k per investment in a 1 month turnover to overcome the salary cost incurred to take them on.

a good poster just lost a ton of respect.

Last edited by FuriousSK at 11/5/2012 7:29:12 PM

From: FuriousSK

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229255.13 in reply to 229255.12
Date: 11/5/2012 8:32:15 PM
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spewing advice on the market? no. I suggest to you that i watch what the market and pointed out that right now is a good time to buy 18 year olds, and posted the two i bought.

You then made another half-true statement, and i tried to correct you again by pointing out that it shouldn't be over someones head to read the fluxuations in the market.

Whether or not someone chooses to try and play the market and turn a profit is their call. Apparently you've decided to go on a near half page post of flaming episode now that i've suggesting things you've said that are untrue, and targeted the fact that i decide not to buy 30 players and sell 10 while cutting the 20 1k players like you as the reason why i am clueless to how the transfer list market fluxuates, which is all i was saying to begin with.

"I bought a 300k salary player for 150k and sold him for 450k a 9 days later and only paid his salary once. After my fees I lost maybe 50k. At my level its nothing." I really hope you typo'd this statement.

"The EXACT opposite is true for some users, even in the lower divisions. What I said holds true, new users, like you, are dismayed and befuddled by the market~ leeching over 1million in losses on transfers over the course of 4 seasons." Again, where are you getting that i've leeched 1million in losses when i'm on the verge of promoting twice? The guy in front of me lost 1mil on the transfer market too even though he's far and away going to promote this season. I guess because you started in a country where you almost got to D.I for free you must think that promoting means nothing.

As i said, you don't have much respect at all after this episode. Please stop flaming someone on the forums when you really have no reason to be doing so.

Last edited by FuriousSK at 11/5/2012 8:32:55 PM

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