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23287.3 in reply to 23287.2
Date: 4/8/2008 7:02:04 AM
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I don't know how it works in BB, but in real hoops the faster a team plays, thw more turnovers it creates because it is less careful with the ball.

So, in my opinion, you ought to slow it down.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 4/8/2008 8:46:56 AM
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I don't know how it works in BB, but in real hoops the faster a team plays, thw more turnovers it creates because it is less careful with the ball.

That's true but apparently in this game it's only like the longer you run your attacks the higher probability you have for turning the ball over.

If you can counter full court press with some tactic, I've no idea, but from the rules you learn that good handling skills help a lot.

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Date: 4/8/2008 8:58:18 AM
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That, of course, is true in real hoops as well. If you handle the ball well, you turn it over less.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 4/8/2008 10:43:12 AM
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Playing fast does not mean playing not carefully with the ball, but taking shots as soon as they come without looking too much at their quality, what is called in basket (at least in Europe) Shot Selection.

Playing careful with the ball should be determined by the handling ability.

Last edited by Emilio at 4/8/2008 10:44:29 AM

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Date: 4/8/2008 1:19:01 PM
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I would go look inside and then play a zone D so you can get the advantage in stamina as well. As you'll get to take it easier on D while they're at a much higher pace on D. That's just my opinion on how I think it works.

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Date: 4/9/2008 12:05:49 AM
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To me, playing fast means running and moving the ball upcourt as quickly as possible, a la the Nuggets or the Warriors. The shot selection is definitely part of that- That would be run and gun. Push the ball, by contrast, to me means move it upcourt quickly, but if there is no break available, look for a good shot. In both cases, it is my humble opinion that the increased pace with which the ball is moved upcourt will lead to more turnovers than if the PG were to run back to whomever rebounded the ball, take it out of his hands, and walk the ball upcourt- then move the ball around the perimeter looking for an open big man or wide open mid-range jumper- be patient or look inside.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 4/9/2008 4:38:56 AM
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In the real basketball you may be right. I just talked about the game engine, as it is described in the rules. For a simulation game, somehow they have to split in different parameters some features than in real world are not separable, like for example handling and dribbling, or JS and JR, and in this case handling and the game pace.

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Date: 4/9/2008 8:54:30 AM
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In the real basketball you may be right. I just talked about the game engine, as it is described in the rules. For a simulation game, somehow they have to split in different parameters some features than in real world are not separable, like for example handling and dribbling, or JS and JR, and in this case handling and the game pace.


Playing fast does not mean playing not carefully with the ball, but taking shots as soon as they come without looking too much at their quality, what is called in basket (at least in Europe) Shot Selection.

Not to split hairs, but when you mentioned Europe and basket, I didn't know you were talking about the game engine. Sorry.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 4/9/2008 9:35:19 AM
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I was all the time talking about the match engine and then I mentioned a concept of real basket to support that the game engine is not so far from real basket. But you still think that playing fast increases turnover, then OK, you might be right but in terms of game design there are these difference I mentioned.

Sorry if my messages confused you, I just try to help understanding the game (also for me), so it is nice to exchange and confront different ideas.

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