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From: Jazz-Fan

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Date: 2/3/2013 5:02:47 PM
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i think it is the best defense to use when a team runs LI or LP in my opinion.

Garry Muir
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Date: 2/3/2013 5:34:28 PM
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Okay? Thanks? I wasn't really asking that nor was he, but since we are on that topic now, I still believe that M2M works better than 2-3, unless of course the other teams outside shooting is just flat out awful.

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Date: 2/3/2013 6:30:09 PM
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yeah sorry i shot my mouth before thinking (again)

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Date: 2/4/2013 4:06:55 AM
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I'm curious, though I understand the logic behind this, on what is this based? I understand the theory that when using M2M you can prevent the ball from going to the post and to prevent penetration, but what has pointed to this outweighing the improved inside defense and rebounding? And can you give a rough estimation as when the opposing outside scoring is flat out awful? Like when his inside scoring rating is more than 1,5x as high as his outside scoring?

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Date: 2/4/2013 8:05:27 AM
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Wow 42 fouls is certainly something to be careful about. I always try to strike a balance between finding things out myself and listening to people with experience to prevent stupid mistakes. I used 2-3 zone a couple of time, but now I know that it wasn't coincidence that the last time I used it both my starting and backup SF (who were actually both SG's) fouled out in 22 minutes.

I got a big game tomorrow against the team I'm tied with for the first spot, and he only uses LI. Since I don't have an SF with good ID I'll just use M2M. Thank you!

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Date: 2/4/2013 8:17:04 AM
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I think the problem with 2-3 is that we have this debate in the first place. Anytime you play a 2-3 you are taking a risk, because if your opponent switches up on you and doesn't play LI, you're screwed.

I'm not a fan of 2-3 because taking this risk does not guarantee me improved results against an LI, and in some cases, hurts your cause.

There is very little, if any reward for the risk of playing 2-3.

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Date: 2/4/2013 8:52:35 AM
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That's a valid point, though I think that goes for any defensive tactic other than M2M. I was wondering what the benefit was of 2-3, or specifically what it is NOT, since most people say it's not helpful. However if you want to weight the risks and rewards you need to know what both are. The risks area clear but I was wondering if the people that say 2-3 zone is bad have any numbers or facts to back up that statement.

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Date: 2/4/2013 9:34:29 AM
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There are managers who believe 3-2 works pretty well against LI.
They say that in this defence,stops the guards passing to the big guys inside .
I must say that Iam not sure about that ,I never tried that against LI,it seems to me not that great cause you will be out rebound in 3-2, I prefer M2M.

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Date: 2/4/2013 10:14:02 AM
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Yes I have heard that as well, but I was wondering what the actual effects are. Personal experiences, numbers or facts that point it out or specific games that show something like the huge amount of fouls a 2-3 zone causes.

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