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From: E.B.W.

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256914.3 in reply to 256914.2
Date: 4/1/2014 9:41:20 PM
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I luckily got a 5'11" Superstar guard who is 19 and has some very nice skills to work with.

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256914.4 in reply to 256914.3
Date: 4/4/2014 2:23:43 AM
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There aren't any 18yo players above Perennial Allstar in Utopia, presumably because the BBs wanted to create balance among new teams.

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256914.5 in reply to 256914.1
Date: 4/7/2014 6:42:48 PM
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I know this has been discussed in the past but looked over 4 pages and could not find it here.

The starting rosters of teams is way to random and often give teams nothing to work with. I;ve just started as Utopia team. The only people I could even think of training are a 2k star 19 or a not much more salary 22 year old Prem AS. If I was a new user I would feel like I had nothing to work with. A friend of mine got s 3.3k 18 year old Super star and a 19 year old PremAS of better salary then my guys.

New teams should get at least 1 or 2 players they can build their starting side around who might be a back up in years times. nothing flash but something like this.

Suitable height for skills. If short more G skills if big more inside skills. at least 2 key skills 6. nothing below 3 in position skills and not less then all star potential. and no older then 20.

My son signed up ages ago and after a few weeks or training a 22 year old who was miles of been decent lost interest. If he had a player like this he might of hung around longer. Maybe even let them name the player (within reason) say asled their real name in sign up and make the player have their name.

If I knew someone who joined with my Utopia players I would suggest let it go bot and roll again in 7 weeks.





Why does the potential have to be high for you to build around him?

Not every franchise that comes about gets a LeBron James dude.
Think when baseball expansion teams come into play... they don't come in with a Ichiro or Clayton Kershaw... they come in with Quinton mcCracken...

Or NFL, when the Browns came back, they weren't coming back with peyton Manning, or Adrian Peterson... they came back with... Tim Couch...

you work with what you get, train them up, get what you can, and invest in either the draft, or free agency, or BOTH, to improve your team... Much like how it works in reality in that sense.

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256914.6 in reply to 256914.5
Date: 4/8/2014 12:50:29 AM
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I said all star min which is not really a great player.

take all the % of lower grades coming up and make them all to be all star. They are no stars but someone who can actually play. They are only depth players at best in decent leagues.

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256914.7 in reply to 256914.6
Date: 4/8/2014 12:53:39 AM
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And I am not talking about Utopia but new users. Someone new starts the game and often do not get a single player in the squad of 18 who is decent enough to stay with them long term. I'm suggesting new users get something little to allow them to be interested tin staying around. Seen so many people sign up and throw it in when they see the huge mountain they need to climb. One ok trainee who can help them in bottom division and stay as a back up a couple up allows them to have 1 thing covered and to keep them interested.

From: bigwigJ
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256914.8 in reply to 256914.1
Date: 4/8/2014 8:46:40 AM
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i agree, my mate got me into this game and i only just joined with his help.... the first thing he said was "wow 18 players who wouldnt even know what a basketball looks like"
he has suggested that i just fire everyone with a high salary and just try and save up some money to buy a couple AVERAGE players!
im freaking out as he is kinda coaching me through this, but by the sounds of things im not gonna even come close to contesting a game and to be honest if i lose heaps every game for the rest of the season... where is the fun in that??

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256914.9 in reply to 256914.6
Date: 4/8/2014 10:01:25 AM
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I said all star min which is not really a great player.

take all the % of lower grades coming up and make them all to be all star. They are no stars but someone who can actually play. They are only depth players at best in decent leagues.


Gosh, four of my six man rotation for the PG, SG, SF positions are allstar or lower (two star, two allstar, with one of the all-stars really ideally suited to be further down the depth chart). I suppose I'm lucky to not be in a decent league.

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256914.10 in reply to 256914.9
Date: 4/8/2014 1:42:27 PM
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I said all star min which is not really a great player.

take all the % of lower grades coming up and make them all to be all star. They are no stars but someone who can actually play. They are only depth players at best in decent leagues.


Gosh, four of my six man rotation for the PG, SG, SF positions are allstar or lower (two star, two allstar, with one of the all-stars really ideally suited to be further down the depth chart). I suppose I'm lucky to not be in a decent league.



I am by no means in a comparison to d.ii but my best player is star potential guy.

Yes heaven forbid...

(Directed at op)
You know what the difference is between a star with 1 season training and an MVP with 1 season training?

Nothing.

You know what the merchandise bonus difference is between keeping your star/Allstar drafted player and training vs buying some pa guy? Thousands per week. Enough to buy the guy's replacement and train him up... Just saying

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256914.11 in reply to 256914.9
Date: 4/9/2014 4:31:15 AM
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They are your bench. Which is my point all along that they are only good for back ups in higher leagues.

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256914.12 in reply to 256914.11
Date: 4/9/2014 9:08:32 AM
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They are your bench. Which is my point all along that they are only good for back ups in higher leagues.


I suppose they need to rerun last season's playoffs then. In my two legitimate wins (i.e., pre-finals), I started my star potential draftee from season 16 in both games. Also had a star potential big man play more than 24 minutes in both wins, as well. The same two star potential players started and played 35 and 34 minutes last night and scored double digits in a road win against another playoff team.

Now, of course, the big man is mostly a backup at this point, since I've trained three other bigs who are ahead of him, but he generally starts when I run inside offenses. The guard starts more often when I run inside offenses and ideally would be a backup, but I'm not at all distressed when I need to start him. The other star guard I have is more a pure backup, though, and would ideally be the 7th man in the 1,2,3 spots.

So, yes, the theory is star potential players are useless in higher divisions - maybe scrubs on the bench at best. Shame I missed class the day that lesson was taught. ;)

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256914.13 in reply to 256914.12
Date: 4/9/2014 5:42:39 PM
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I think you are missing the point. New users often do not even get a 19 year old star potential player. My point is I think to make things easier for new users that they be given a player of a max age, min potential and min skills to ensure they get a at least one player worth training.

I've seen people I know get at best a 21 year old MVP with poor skills for his height who might as well being star as he could not train him much. And an other get a 18 year old HoFer with decent skills.

I'm just suggesting some of the loto be taken out of it for new users. Stuff Utopia as we all can work it out. But for a new user having something worth doing will help them say longer and engage with the game. I have seen other people advise new users they know to let their team go bot and try again to get a better trainee. Not sure that is a real option but it does make a point.


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