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268036.3 in reply to 268036.2
Date: 2/26/2015 9:27:34 AM
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So is it your best defender on their best scorer? Or is it pg on pg, sg on sg and so on?

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Date: 2/26/2015 9:32:49 AM
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Your best [inside or outside] defender is on their best [inside or outside] scorer and the rest of the players are in a zone playing defense with zone concepts, is what I figure.

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Date: 2/26/2015 9:35:15 AM
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Yeah that would make sense but the game manual just mentions 1 defender and their best scorer, not best defender on best scorer.

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268036.7 in reply to 268036.5
Date: 2/26/2015 7:45:23 PM
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I think its hard to define it is 'best defender on best scorer'

their best scorer from the game might come somewhere else, because you defended their best scorer. Ironic.

Ive always assumed that Outside Box is - your best OD player. whom he defends? the best outside shooter from the opposition.
Is this the player that would have normally taken the most outside shots? not necessarily.

happy to hear otherwise from people. Ive played this defense a few times, so I might have some data I can scrounge up.

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268036.9 in reply to 268036.8
Date: 2/26/2015 10:46:40 PM
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yes it does work against Patient offence quite well.

How do you know that your SF was picked as the and1 defender?


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268036.11 in reply to 268036.10
Date: 2/27/2015 7:16:04 AM
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the SF defended most of the outside shots.

ahhhhhh but you see this is where it gets tricky.

just because a player takes the most shots in the game, doesn't mean the Boxn1 should defend them. Does it?
So maybe your And1 defended the best outside offensive player, and shut him down, and so the opposition had to revert to a different player shooting their shots. This player happened to be defended by your SF who was in the box.

so any assumptions made that 'their best offensive player is the guy who shoots the most shots in the game' is actually not always true.


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268036.13 in reply to 268036.12
Date: 2/28/2015 4:38:58 AM
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its interesting, because in that thread, the same assumptions are being made.
the assumption is that - best defender will defend the best offensive player (who is the player that takes the most shots).

or in those threads, they have made the assumption, that because Player X, was being defended by player Y, that player Y was selected as the best defender.

And this is my point - MAYBE - this is an incorrect assumption. Hear me out.

In the scenario in that linked thread, they clearly identify player X as the key offensive player. Which id say is right.
However, the assumption is made that - because Player Y defended the majority of the shots that Player X took, that Player Y is the defender assigned as the 'And 1'
..... think about real life basketball. If you are the 'And 1' M2M defender, the opposition will generally screen you, or try to run pick's and plays, which make you NOT defender. ie: Backdoor cuts, which make your team-mate the defender.

So MAYBE in that linked game, the defender identified as the 'And 1' was NOT the PF who defended all the shots. Maybe Player X just dribbled into the corner, had the 'And 1' screened off the ball, and as such, the PF had to come out of the box and defend player X.

Am i making sense?
IM not saying im right, im just debating over the assumptions that are made and that we know whom the 'and 1' player is.

Last edited by Coach Regan at 2/28/2015 4:44:03 AM

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