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275960.3 in reply to 275960.1
Date: 1/4/2016 12:22:56 AM
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New player here, DI, Micro-nation.

I started playing a season and a half ago with very low level merch (about 25k). Every week, it has gone up about 1-2k in growth (as I've started winning, gotten better players, etc). I expect it will go up to about 100k, maybe more if I buy some NTers.

$ 43 353
10/12/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 46 178
10/19/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 49 144
10/26/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 49 021
11/2/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 47 430
11/9/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 48 104
11/16/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 51 756
11/23/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 51 366
11/30/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 56 601
12/7/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 60 663
12/14/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 63 742
12/21/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 65 794
12/28/2015 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 66 814
1/4/2016 Weekly Merchandise profit $ 70 646

The jump from 51-56 was because one of my trainees was named to the U21-NT.

Can you spot when I moved from a level 1 PR to a LEvel 6 PR? I got one last week (66->70). What gives? Is a Level 6 PR person a total ripoff? If I can get 66k with a level 2 PR person why would I pay 10x as much for only 4k more per week?



my understanding is that PR guys affect fan attendance at home games... and if they have a "national appeal" speciality, a small bonus to performance on road games (make them more like home games).

But I could be wrong.

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275960.4 in reply to 275960.1
Date: 1/4/2016 1:48:24 AM
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Your merchandise will go down, if you get better players that are foreigners. The merchandise formula is xenophobe, so any increase in "foreign" salaries, will result in a loss in merchandise money.

I dismantled my roster at the end of last season, got rid of the expensive foreigners and my merchandise went from ~40k to 60-70k instanteniously.

A roster of world class foreign players will most likely bring less merchandise than a salary floor domestic team.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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275960.5 in reply to 275960.4
Date: 1/5/2016 9:16:30 AM
Tbilisi Mavericks
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Can anyone give a note about difference of PR levels and specialties? For example, which one is better - level 4 PR with Crowd Involvement or National Appeal or a level 5 PR without any?

From: Knecht

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Date: 1/5/2016 9:41:13 AM
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Nobody knows.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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275960.7 in reply to 275960.6
Date: 1/5/2016 9:52:39 AM
Tbilisi Mavericks
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Thats bad. Thnx for the reply though

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Date: 1/5/2016 1:09:47 PM
white snake
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After you lose a game it takes time and victories to increase the number of sales. When I had a lv 6 PR and lost my games, it took me only one victory to get back to (almost) the same level before the loss. A lv 3 or 4 PR will take longer, app. 3 or 4 victories.
From what I know, a higher PR level will increase the speed of recovery from losses.

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275960.10 in reply to 275960.9
Date: 1/5/2016 5:02:51 PM
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yeah I think common wisdom has always been that:
1) the effect of a PR on merchandise is dubious and not enough to justify the extra cost anyway
2) the effect on the volatile end of the seats (bleachers) is not negligible. In a game right after a loss, someone with a better PR will lose fewer bleachers and (to a lesser extent) Lower Tier seats
3) the fan survey recovers faster after a loss with a better PR

Finally:
- Crowd involvement gives a very small bonus to team rebounding and defenses in home games
- National Appeal gives a very small bonus to team rebounding and defenses in road games
These effects are exactly the same no matter what level your PR is.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/5/2016 5:03:11 PM

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275960.11 in reply to 275960.10
Date: 1/6/2016 6:31:15 AM
Neverwinter
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I believe that key to PR testing is a continuity of the team. You need steady results, no player changing for a while, so you could know what to expect in terms of attendance/merchandise.

My team was pretty volatile all the time so far, so I got no real results, when I tried testing. I'm trying to assemble a long term team structure right now, so I'll try experimenting again in the future.

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Date: 1/6/2016 4:17:11 PM
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get a basic PR dude with some speciality (nobody knows exactly how much they change the game but at least they are not supposed to create any harm) and that's it.

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Date: 1/7/2016 9:13:05 PM
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Makes sense to get a basic PR with specialty

In terms of continuity, I haven't made a move in a season and a half. I bought some trainees and one ringer (a 32 year old 30l salary shooting guard) and I have beaten every bot team in my league (and lost to every human). I'm on pace to go 18-4 this year (and lose in the first round of the playoffs). I've put literally all my money into expanding my arena. After my last expansion, it will be 22,550 seats (17000/5000/500/50) and then I can begin to start upgrading my backcourt while my front court trainees continue to improve...

Last edited by packer_22 at 1/7/2016 9:17:59 PM

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