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Take it easy... it's just a game. You already said it: You have a real life.

I've lost so many good purchases - even titles - because I couldn't be online. So, there are two different kind of people in BB: The one who enjoys and the one who get frustrated.

There are differents ways to the success... looks like you want the fastest one...

I am actually not gonna advertise for buzzer beater. But I recorded games and took it serious that I was spending $415 a check on fifa 17. That is a very small amount of what people actually pay to win in that pay to win game.

I know certain fifa youtuber's Bateson87 to be exact to have been said once that he spends roughly $40,000 a year on fifa. Then their is the Elites of Fifa who budget year in a year out and have millions before the game even started.

Then there is the free youtuber's like Nick28t poor man road to glory. I don't know how he does it. Youtuber's in game need to have the best content in pay to win games so that means pay a lot of money to win.

I went to mobile games for 5 months and enjoyed spending $5- $10 bucks a check on Pokemon Go. Best investment i've ever made. Later down the road I double that I took the risk of starting a new channel and facebook live streaming using the 20 effort-80% return rule.

I just blewed up on facebook getting 280 views in one video, now I am getting roughly around a 100 views or so each stream . Last stream I got had 80 views plus. But this is not the point

The point is this is fair competition no1 pay's to win this game and all you have to be is knowledgable about real world money and you can make a killing at this game.

Yes those pay to win games are a complete money scam. In Ultimate team series and Pokemon Go these resources they give you are a complete advantage over free to play players. These free to play players should not put time and effort into pay to win games it doesn't work like that.

As far as making money off of youtube videos. I was just saying how pay to win you have to put and insane amount of money in order to come out in the top tier group. I like the fact that bb is free to play this is why I came back!

Ebay Amazon are the same type of markets. Social media doesn't have time constrant so you can do it whenever you like to. Doesn't mean we all have fake lives instead of real lives like some mediocre people do these days.

this is fair competition no1 pay's to win this game. This is my point!

You can go on the game at facebook.com!!! But I have hard time loading it up on my Macbook Air.

Kinda love it. Guy bragging about having real life.......writes novel about autobid.

Mate, remember you some time ago and still did not make any progress in one area - write for yourself. Saying 'WE', 'AUDIENCE' or anything along the lines of that is pretty bold statement, however I do not feel we agree here.

Market has been like that for months and probably years, like everywhere there are some customs. If you check early bird time in Japan do not be surprise that liquidity dried out as vast majority of entire BB world is either sleeping or preparing for 'real world job'. If you are smart enough then just do not place an offer that will conclude around that period or simply bid earlier, so you leave your order in case of said event of low liquidity.

People been complaining about inflation, rapid market price increase and this option will only enhance this problem. And yes, saying people as observed much more subjects opened with pricing complains unlike autobid function.

If you want to punish users spending/sacrifying/devoting more time than others just for the sake of getting player for lower price then I have bad news for you - every online game known to me favours this kind behaviour and foremost it impose on users to spend that time to get the player they desire. Once you have autobid function, it is likely that users will stop visiting website as you can just set autobid at certain price and.....log out.

However the real turn off for me is not lack of tweaks or game improvements, but constant whining on forums. Quick question, have you ever seen any person, who always complain, that is surrounded by nice girls on a party?

Quick question, have you ever seen any person, who always complain, that is surrounded by nice girls on a party?

lol naivety at its best. The answer is yes. I have eyewitnessed complete ass*oles who not only complain all the time but treat people like sh*t going out with supermodels (and I was present when said people were throwing a tantrum with the owner of the club we were in).

To me the real turn off is people who complain about those who want improvements. Whiners of first degree, who come up with reasons why people should never ask for anything and explain that with the reasoning of a 6 year old. Like you did.

The fact that you people don't understand how markets work is not a problem, but if you don't, do not come on forums dismissing valid opinions without making any point or building straw men to argue for the sake of arguing like you did here:

then just do not place an offer that will conclude around that period or simply bid earlier, so you leave your order in case of said event of low liquidity.

1) Autobid would have improved the number of bids on players. Result: more players would be sold and sold for the right price instead of people overpaying or underpaying. A, liquid, functioning market is vital to prevent arbitrage which is the point Wolph keeps making, but you clearly failed to understand.
2) Tax on profits instead of sales also improves liquidity as people would be able to retool their rosters without being penalised. A tax on the sale value discourages people to list their players.

The lower the liquidity on the Trasfer List the weakest the link between price and value. These were not complaints, these were PROPOSALS made before actual changes in the game. On Autobid GMs argued that you need click from users for Ad money and (a few) users argued that they liked to wake up in the middle of the night to bid or liked bid wars and they should be rewarded for it. On taxing profits instead of sales, nobody ever gave a coherent explanation, but the suspicion most people have is that it was simpler to implement, so they went that way.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/20/2017 4:29:27 AM

Let's move in time and share explanation of 26 rather than 6 year old man.

Before we start, we have to answer simple question - do you believe that market price already hit the roof?

If you have positive answer on above then I do not understand why you support the idea of autobid. Here you have two reasons:
1) From economy under perfect conditions and no trading restrictions imposed by regulators/government, market price is determined by the law of supply and demand. The level on which both lines cross each other represents equilibrium. In other words, demand and supply is equal against each other and both parties (customer and supplier) are willing to trade at exactly the same price. There are two additional scenarios: (i) demand for product exceeds supply - product is traded at client's price per given quantity, (ii) supply exceeds demand - similarly, we trade at client's price as clients are not willing to cover the cost of overproduction. http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2016/03/Supply-Deman... <--click link to continue the course.

Now let's consider the impact of autobid on pricing. The supply line remains intact, as autobid is unlikely to have an effect whether you place the player on TL or not. It is rather determined by the cost of replacement. On the other hand, autobid will increase the curve of demand line as number of traders/buyers will increase as all of them can set their max price upfront without waiting till the end of an auction (little tricky, will discuss in 2nd point).

Ultimately, equilibrium price will move up meaning that for the same quantity (i.e. product) we will have to pay more.

2) Imagine scenario when we have 2 users to bid on player X.

user #1: he bids first and established his max price at 100,000. He will not be available on the final day of auction
user #2: he/she (let's support equality rights) bids after user #1 and sets max price at 60,000. He/She will not be available on the final day. As a result, price immediately spiked to 61,000. Ask why? Well, both autobids competes against each other immediately and final bid was 1k over user #2 max limit.

Currently, none of them will be likely to place their max bids upfront 2-3 days ahead the end of auction. Meaning that price on final day could be lower than 61,000 as both of them will be hesitant to show their intention. Other way, if final price goes above 100k then there is no advantage of having autobid. Surely, you can always amend your max level you are willing to splash.

To summarize the above, due to increased competition on auctions, you'll have to outbid more users which will be reflected in diminished value of your wallet.