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Apart the NT coach knowing the skills of a player which is frowned upon if the player has no NT future, there are no downside of having a player called/be in the NT.

Having to ask individually dozens of managers to be able to call a player would be an horrible hassle. Especially as 10 to 20% would never answer and some would answer a week later.

Such a suggestion would be perfect to take NT players hostage and kill part of the NT world.

I disagree, I do not see how it could kill NT world, it only reduces choices for a NT coach. If draft is random, NT have no assurance to have good players, so it's just as it was a bad draft and there will be some player less for NT.
Batum will not play next European Championship, France will play in any case, there will be another player at Batum place.
Ask individually is easy solved, players who wants their player in NT could just contact NT coaches and/or add a button on/off to let a player available or not for NT.

About skills, well, I'm not happy that someone, without asking, knows how my players are. I do not know how it will use this info and as manager I'd have the choice to let know to someone else know how strong are my players. I could have a NT coach in my DIV and he'll know how is my team. It's totally unfair. Or to avoid that I have to buy all players outside the country I'm playing in. It still is unfair.

Perpete is right. Even you admit it would reduce choices, you just underestimate how many. It would be difficult for most countries to field a lineup if NT managers had to wait for permission, and then have managers refuse permission because someone cab see the skills of one of your players?

You're asking for a massive shake up to solve a miniscule problem.

Perpete is right. Even you admit it would reduce choices, you just underestimate how many. It would be difficult for most countries to field a lineup if NT managers had to wait for permission, and then have managers refuse permission because someone cab see the skills of one of your players?

You're asking for a massive shake up to solve a miniscule problem.

Not one of my players, all of them if I buy players from my country. It's not a minuscule problem, it's huge problem for a fair game. Give an advantage such this to a player just because is NT coach (elected btw in the ridicoulous way nt coaches are elected) it's extremely unfair: in top div this could be quite an edge for nt coach or his friends, because we all know that every coach has a team with which he shares informations. Massive shake up just for those who cares about NT or taking an unfair advantage on other players. I still do not see the point in being able to see skills without asking, a lot of scouts write a pm to managers to ask skills and discuss training, I find it a very good thing, I do not see how make this the obvious way of interacting with other managers if interested in players.

While I have sympathy for your suggestion, the way you're currently laying it out has a very big impact. I say this as NT manager, but also as a team manager, and I would have hoped that other NT managers would at least show a bit more sympathy for the suggestion despite the impact.

Maybe there's a way to ensure more agency of a club over it's players with a much smaller impact. It could be a small step if a team could have a setting that indicates it does not wish his players to be called up to the NT. If that setting is on, the NT coach gets a warning when calling up the player informing him the team does not wish to be called up and has to confirm ("are you sure" popup) if he wants to call up anyway.

This way, coaches can still do their job the way they do now (with only in a small % of cases a need for an extra click to confirm), but there's an opening in communication about the wishes of the team. I know this does not give the team the power to prevent it, but it might be a step in the right direction that works for both sides.

As a sidenote, the comparison with the real world doesn't hold up because the main reasons players are not playing for their NT is because they can get injured or fatigued, neither is the case in Buzzerbeater.

Last edited by Jeründerbar at 8/4/2022 10:33:55 AM

Who hurt you?

If you don’t want your players on the U21/NT then either don’t train them to that caliber or keep them in bad Game Shape. You already have those options which prevent the U21/NT from even wanting your players.

Who hurt you?

If you don’t want your players on the U21/NT then either don’t train them to that caliber or keep them in bad Game Shape. You already have those options which prevent the U21/NT from even wanting your players.

101% nonsense (to avoid any bad language 😂)
Usually you want your own players in good game shape to have them as key-players of your team.
I never heard, that someone trains players to U21-/NT-Level and keeps them in bad shape to avoid that they are nominated for the National … and i do not know anyone who heard about something like this 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Last edited by LA-flaterik123 at 8/4/2022 5:17:47 AM

You’ve never been blessed to know the manager that was Zenith 😂

This is very very bad suggestion. Obviously you were never the NT coach and don’t know the amount and time required for scouting and communication. And also the response rate/time of managers. If you also would need to put more time each Monday for tactics because some schmucks don’t want their player to be called (which has no downsides, only upsides, with increased merchandise and etc.), this would be unplayable.
We also have one case in NT, where player is taken as a hostage and his owner asks IRL money for him, with your suggestion there would be tens of those cases.

Being NT coach is not a full time or real job, if people do not have time to work for it they simply have to play as club manager. It's not my problem if someone is doing a job too big for him. If someone is not able to be NT coach because he has no time for it, well, just don't be NT coach. It's easy.
But I do not understand why to make this game more fun for someone (who has no time to be NT coach) it should be less fun for me.

PS
About the players asking money, lol, he'd be crazy, it's easy solved: well, just do not call in NT his player! It's not about humanity future, it's all about basketball internet game, losing a world cup or a qualification match because one manager do not want his player playing in "prestigious" NT, it's not a big issue for the world. It happens in RL, I do not see why it would be a tragedy in BB to lose a player for a NT.

While I have sympathy for your suggestion, the way you're currently laying it out has a very big impact. I say this as NT manager, but also as a team manager, and I would have hoped that other NT managers would at least show a bit more sympathy for the suggestion despite the impact.

Maybe there's a way to ensure more agency of a club over it's players with a much smaller impact. It could be a small step if a team could have a setting that indicates it does not wish his players to be called up to the NT. If that setting is on, the NT coach gets a warning when calling up the player informing him the team does not wish to be called up and has to confirm if he wants to call up anyway.

This way, coaches can still do their job the way they do now (with only in a small % of cases a need for an extra click to confirm), but there's an opening in communication about the wishes of the team. I know this does not give the team the power to prevent it, but it might be a step in the right direction that works for both sides.

As a sidenote, the comparison with the real world doesn't hold up because the main reasons players are not playing for their NT is because they can get injured or fatigued, neither is the case in Buzzerbeater.

Thank you very much!
It's exactly my point