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113010.30 in reply to 113010.29
Date: 9/25/2009 10:40:38 AM
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I'm not quite sure when you mean with this, since I lack some mathematical knowledge, but it seems that 14 vs 12 indeed is a smaller difference than 4 vs 2.

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Date: 9/25/2009 11:45:23 AM
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I'm not quite sure when you mean with this, since I lack some mathematical knowledge, but it seems that 14 vs 12 indeed is a smaller difference than 4 vs 2.


Yes, it seems. I was half-way wrong with it. You might better understand the logarithmic thing as decremental performance. An example, suppose you are studying for a test, everybody starts with qualification 1 and the max is 10, if you study 1 hour you get a 4 (this means 1 hour equals an increment of 4-1(minimun)=3), if you study two hours you get a 6 (2 hours equals an increment of 6-1(minimun)=5). But, while the first hour gives you an increment of 3 in your qualification, the second hour only gives you 2 (6-4(qualification with 1 hour of study)=2). That is a decremental performance.

In my general idea I had an understanding of decremental performance in the difference of skills. When It seems that skill levels itself have decremental performance and not their difference as I thought.

So, yes. It seems that 15 vs 14 is a smaller difference in performance than 5 vs 4. I was wrong when stated the opposite. But when looking in my idea, I was pointing the right direction when thinking that somehow skills (or his difference) needed to have decremental performance.

But this is about to bring another issue. If in the simulation the increase in performance from 18 to 19 is not as high as from 10 to 11 and you start to consider the cost in salary of 19-18 compared to 11-10, you realize you are paying much more money for less performance.

This is something I will start to consider when planning training and searching the market.

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Date: 9/25/2009 1:39:16 PM
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Or maybe it is even simpler than that. Maybe instead of a difference it is a sum:

-for inept vs awful:
(4/(4+3))=57% chance shot goes in

-for 15 vs 14:
(15/(15+14))=51.7% chance shot goes in


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113010.33 in reply to 113010.32
Date: 9/25/2009 1:55:10 PM
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yes, I think this is more close to the experience that I got.

low and mid lv differences are more clearer than high.

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Date: 9/25/2009 8:31:34 PM
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Well maybe is a sum. The thing is that it is a form to compare offense with defense.

I do not think that it is like you stated in the way that here we are not considering a lot of things. But maybe the .57 and the .517 you get maybe used in a much more complex formula. That is a possibility.

What I really try to take as a learning is that skills do have decremental performance. And that is something that we as managers should somehow take in consideration when taking critical decisions like training and the use of player market.

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Date: 9/25/2009 8:33:48 PM
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Yep, I think what I said is definitely a simplification. Maybe a big simplification - because somehow team ratings also have an effect. And also, I think there is more than one offensive and defensive skill involved in every play.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager