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235389.30 in reply to 235389.29
Date: 2/5/2013 6:22:15 PM
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Great! Thanks for the effort. How would you say this kind of lineup compares to traditional lineups? How much cheaper is it compared to a traditional lineup with the same skills, or how much better is it compared to one with the same salary?

The PG is hard indeed because it needs something of everything, and the OD still inflates the salary even if you keep it at 9. However, you'll have RB and SB across the board, and you can pimp your bigs greatly. I mean 20 OD, and then you could even choose to make IS 19 if you keep SB at 5 and ID at 7 for the Center (a traditional PG doesn't need that much ID right?)

If you want a commited PG with the same skills but regular OD and 1 RB, you can still only get OD to 15 for 101k. We could try to work out something else, but I think the PG we have currently isn't that bad.

If we make a LI team like everyone else does, the JS won't be much of a problem right? Or is it too low for LI as well? Even so, I don't think we should aim for the perfect solution with this build, that would be unrealistic. I think we can live with some minor flaws (the PG, the lack of high JS) if we get other big benefits: much lower salary and high RB, PA and SB across the boards.

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Date: 2/6/2013 4:35:20 AM
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Yeah working out the entire lineup and weekly rotation is the next step. I must admit this is going a bit beyond my reach since I only started playing halfway through last season, so I don't have enough experience to answer these questions properly.

However as far as I can tell, I think the 8 man rotation would consist of the starting 5 which we described, with the SF being a traditional guy. As bench players you'd need another hybrid guard and big, and then another traditional SF/wingman. So 6 hybrid players. I guess the extra cup players can be traditional as well, keeping a regular lineup for the cup?

I don't really understand what the blank lineup strategy is... Though I think that LI might be easiest to build for with hybrid players as the guards are the toughest, and if you don't need high JS and JR you can keep their costs down. They're hybrid anyway, so LI might suit them best too, plus I believe it's currently the most effective strategy.

About training and where the team is... I guess we'll need some time to prepare, the first few seasons in which we need to do the out of position training, but I guess that goes for traditional trainees too right?

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Date: 2/6/2013 6:19:34 AM
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I'm sorry if I misled you, I just wanted to share my ideas with the established players, on one side to bring some new insights for our common knowledge of the game, and on the other side because I just like out of the box thinking and solutions. I realize I'm not in a position to apply this strategy to the full extend, but I wanted to know wether it would be possible when I am ready. Also, it would be great if others can use the strategy succesfully; I don't need the succes myself, but the fact that others can use my ideas to be succesful is great for me too.

I might try this idea myself on a smaller scale, lower skill levels and just a PG and a C. If you like the idea yourself, feel free to try it out, you don't have to do it for me. I greatly appreciate your input and thank you for that. So I apologize if I wasn't upfront enough with you which caused you to spend time that you could have used otherwise.

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Date: 2/6/2013 7:49:22 AM
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Yeah I heard about it, maybe I can come up with a new idea around that dynamic. In any case, thank you for your input.

If others are in a favorable situation and want to try this idea, feel free to do so and let me know how it works out

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Date: 2/6/2013 10:29:31 AM
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Yeah I heard about it, maybe I can come up with a new idea around that dynamic. In any case, thank you for your input.

If others are in a favorable situation and want to try this idea, feel free to do so and let me know how it works out


The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.

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Date: 2/6/2013 1:28:46 PM
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The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.


I understand... so we're back to just running LI?

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Date: 2/6/2013 1:35:47 PM
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The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.


I understand... so we're back to just running LI?


I think the point is more that patient isn't an offense you can build a team around.

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