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324656.30 in reply to 324656.29
Date: 8/27/2024 6:56:51 AM
Great Fires
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If Alonso were not part of the game staff, his 'joke' would bother me, but it would be up to the GMs to decide whether it is sanctionable or not. The problem arises if he is (supposedly) part of the game staff, which would mean that his words represent those of the current owners of BB.

Therefore, if Alonso makes an apology for Nazism, jokingly or not, until there is a clarification from the new staff, I will assume that they do not see anything wrong with this situation and that they are not opposed to the apology for Nazism.

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324656.31 in reply to 324656.30
Date: 8/27/2024 7:15:31 AM
Súria Lakers
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What really bothers me is the awkward silence from someone on the BB staff.
No GM has even dared to write anything, but let's not lie... If we were talking about some other manager, this thread would already be closed and everything solved.

I was reading the Discord tonight and there was also an accusation towards Alonso, referring to him advising other managers to buy 34-year-old players at the end of last season, before the implementation of the new age-limit of dropping skills.
No evidence, but also no denial... I'm sure someone in his position wouldn't dare to do this, but it's funny that his name always comes up in every case that doesn't bring anything good to the game; we all here have seen some of his posts in Forums of other countries after playing against Israel.

In the end, it's one action after another, which shouldn't matter, but coming from who it's coming from, it's something that shouldn't happen anymore.

Last edited by LA-Gerard (g3rjo) at 8/27/2024 7:27:15 AM

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324656.32 in reply to 324656.31
Date: 8/27/2024 7:19:03 AM
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324656.35 in reply to 324656.25
Date: 8/27/2024 8:57:46 AM
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That is fine and dandy but this is the same guy who banned someone for giving a player a sexual nickname.
I think it was Dan "long dong" Silver. In my opinion, if you can't follow the rules, don't try and enforce them on others.

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324656.36 in reply to 324656.34
Date: 8/27/2024 8:59:11 AM
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I'm sorry I don't consider that someone can make jokes about Nazism, Nazism has no place in bad taste jokes.
The apology for Nazism should be condemned anywhere who may consider it to be a joke in bad taste, so they have the same problem as someone who defends a genocidal movement.
That said, Alonso should be out of this game immediately, he, his team and everything that has to do with him.

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324656.37 in reply to 324656.34
Date: 8/27/2024 9:02:57 AM
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If a normal user says five insults on the forums in fifteen years, he is banned from the game forever.

BB-Alonso sends DMs to the Polish coach laughing what happened in the past, calls his players offensive names (that is not a simple joke) and go around the forums laughing at everyone, going unpunished for any crime. .

Where is the line between "inappropriates" attitudes or not?

I'm sure most of the BB staff laugh at all BB-Alonso's jokes, otherwise someone would have written something here or made a decision about it.

Last edited by carlos88vazquez at 8/27/2024 9:04:21 AM

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324656.39 in reply to 324656.38
Date: 8/27/2024 11:18:26 AM
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The recent discussion about some users in the forum has come to my attention.

I have politely asked Alonso to remove any Nazi references related to the mentioned player. Even if it was intended as a joke, it was inappropriate, and we strongly condemn any reference to Nazism.

We acknowledge the importance of educating future generations about World War II, the atrocities, crimes against humanity, and the Holocaust.

I want to emphasize that politics are ABSOLUTELY not allowed in BB. This is one of the first rules of the forum. We will not allow the BB Forums to become a place to attack any country, make accusations against any country or manager, or target any specific race or religion. BB is a basketball manager game, and there is no room for such behavior.

We are here because we enjoy basketball and management games, which have nothing to do with politics.

We will sanction those who disrupt the gaming experience for others, and I fully support any GM who takes action against such managers.

BuzzerBeater should be a game that unites people, not divides them.

Regarding Alonso's role: since I joined BB, he has approached me and helped me understand certain issues, primarily technical ones. He has also reported the current status of the game to me and made official announcements after receiving my approval.

We are currently very busy with the game's conversion, so we do not have the time to focus on all the day-to-day operations, which are handled by EGM, GMs, BB-Marin, and BB-Justin.

If we had to focus on these daily operations, we would have to pause the game's conversion and improvement, which would be detrimental to everyone.

I receive a lot of BB-mails and Discord DMs daily, and with all the work we have to do, it is nearly impossible to handle them. Most of these messages are game-related debates that should be addressed directly to the GMs, and I often lack the context to make the right decisions.

I hope this clarifies the matter once and for all. I wish everyone continues to enjoy BB for what it is—a wonderful basketball game that has entertained us for many years and will hopefully do so for many more to come!

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