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203921.301 in reply to 203921.300
Date: 7/20/2012 2:41:50 PM
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Same for me, just like Manon said.

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203921.303 in reply to 203921.302
Date: 7/20/2012 8:24:13 PM
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Same for passing btw. And yes, we noticed.

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203921.305 in reply to 203921.304
Date: 7/21/2012 10:12:52 AM
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for me seems like js trains faster on 6.10 foot guy than on 6.0 guy:D 4 vs 3 pops this season, but smaller guy is 3 year older. as for passing last season 6.0 and .6.6 guy got equal passing ups. so the results may be correct its +- the same speed for big or small.

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203921.306 in reply to 203921.304
Date: 7/21/2012 1:39:10 PM
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There's a lot of data that goes into these outcomes
remember it's probable that the big man are starting out atrocious and so it's almost assured they will pop first time out thus skewing the numbers, and of course age enters into it.

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203921.307 in reply to 203921.306
Date: 7/21/2012 2:07:46 PM
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There's a lot of data that goes into these outcomes
remember it's probable that the big man are starting out atrocious and so it's almost assured they will pop first time out thus skewing the numbers, and of course age enters into it.

This is a very good point. Age is being controlled for, so I don't think it's that, but the fact that big men likely have lower skills (and therefore may be benefitting more from high initial sublevels, or from "elastic" type effects) is certainly possible. Of course, if that were the case, I'd expect the same to be true of OD, and there training clearly decreases with height.

I just re-ran the calculation of the coefficients and updated the analysis page to see if the recent data had gotten rid of some of this, but the passing trend is definitely still there (and maybe even more dramatic). As hard as it is for me to believe that's correct, it's at least possible that passing training is faster for tall guys. Passing is one of the most trained things, so we actually have quite a bit of data on it. (Not as much as OD, but more than just about everything else).

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203921.308 in reply to 203921.307
Date: 7/21/2012 9:51:39 PM
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Big men is a much smaller sample
mostly you're hoping to move them from atrocious or pitiful to something acceptable
they won't be trained in that at an older age
on the other hand, you will be squeezing the last possible passing pops out of a guard that is reaching eiher his cap or an age place that makes pops more difficult thus taking an extended period to get one.

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203921.310 in reply to 203921.309
Date: 8/29/2012 12:06:39 PM
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I trained "team training / free throw" last week ... one of my players got a pop at "Outside Defence" ... he's a 6'10, 20 years old ...

That suprised me a lot.

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