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From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/14/2010 5:37:25 PM
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First plays in Bundesliga now and second plays in NCAA. So they got theyr calling card 1 season early. Just like Team America adds few players from college teams. It's not like they could not get better players for those spots.
In this game you can not enforce players to switch teams when they are ready for NT level action. In real life they will be picked up by better clubs. In this game you would need to restrict NT appointing before he is eligible (national divI or foreign divI+divII for example).

From: Kukoc

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I'm just saying if you can have NT player farm teams, you can also have NT player destroyer teams.

From: CrazyEye

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but they was second league players when they play in the NT also a guy called Doreth got the call to the NT who is still a third league player, and i don't think the NCAA is on a level with the Bundesliga(first league) ;)

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Date: 3/14/2010 6:15:25 PM
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Well, how surprising. He began to be bad trained, having bad amounts of minutes just after an important match between France and Poland was announced, if I remember well.
it wasn't a multi account. Just a farm that became a trap for NT potential from a rival NT.



May i know when Polish national team played against French team after 12.12.2009 (date of last Riaud match) If you cant show me apologised would be welcome.

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Why after 12.12.2009 ? Oo

Riaud was transfered into this team from D4 in august.


And surprise !

The 31st of august 2009 :

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/6857/boxscore.aspx)



Last edited by Dunker Joe at 3/14/2010 6:31:41 PM

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Absolutely.

I am not telling that a whole country is responsible without proof.

However, if things occured as if you might have a doubt, it gives you an idea of problems there might have later if it would become truly premeditated.

That's the most important thing to hold back, and the only one I wanted to demonstrate.

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From: Kukoc

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NCAA top teams are prolly better than Bundesliga teams. But that is beside the point.
The point is - you can have NT players from foreign country divII (as we can assume some countrys are stronger than others), but you can have NT players from your country top division only.
I already explained how in real life you can give tickets to NT in advance (as you know he will be your best player for 10 years to come). Just like Ronaldo sat on Brazil's bench before he even was anybody (and ended up as an overweight dumbo :D). In BB training and young player improvement is a lot different from the real world and players will never get moved to teams they should play at considering theyr level. In order to make it a bit more "real" (we all agree that we want the game as real as it can be), we should try to discourage farm teams. Or we will have NT-s filled with the same countrys divII-divIII team players. That would be really illogical, wouldn't it?

From: CrazyEye

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NCAA top teams are prolly better than Bundesliga teams. But that is beside the point.


i doubt that, i watched some of their games and we got many player with "college" honors in our league - they are few stars who are better then a bundesliga player but not in the depht and normally they are also very close to the level.

The point is - you can have NT players from foreign country divII (as we can assume some countrys are stronger than others), but you can have NT players from your country top division only.


still don't make sense for me, also in reality they was exceptions - even in soccer in germany if the basketball is to weak around here soccer isn't.(but in basketball the gap betwen the levels is much bigger)

In order to make it a bit more "real" (we all agree that we want the game as real as it can be), we should try to discourage farm teams.


but you also make team to farm, or betryers if they had to sell they stars for the country even when they fit excellent in their roster.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/14/2010 7:14:42 PM
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With all do respect, Bundesliga is not really top european league. So it's safe to say NCAA is on par or better than Bundesliga -> with many of the NCAA players going to NBA. We are not talking about the scrubs that shine for their university but are not actually from the top teams. Maybe only Beasley has overcome that barriage, from recent history.
NT sales might have restrictions: for example, team lists NT player -> only teams that have the needed variables to bid (country divI, foreign divI+divII) can bid on the player. If a team with NT player relegates, the player will get transferlister automatically.
These are just my thoughts, because I dislike this player farming. Even in estonian NT we have a player from divIV. I think NT-s should have good players, but these monsters that are being developed are really inbalanced.

From: CrazyEye

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o it's safe to say NCAA is on par or better than Bundesliga -> with many of the NCAA players going to NBA.


to finish it on my side, we also get some players from NBA whoo not always dominate(often but normally not that much like in the college), and some player who go to the NBA without being that dominant - and don't forget that those players even got stronger when they are becoming older. So how many Beasley,Wall etc. a NCAA team have, one or two? A Bundesliga team normally have plenty of all conference players on their bench - and they made an impact during their NCAA time and especially under the basket grown men will screw the NCAA "kids"(who are very talented but maturity, brings experience and muscles).

If a team with NT player relegates, the player will get transferlister automatically.


thats great, so i lose my key player while relegating - just because they are in a NT? This would piss me off.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 3/15/2010 5:09:10 AM

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