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135029.31 in reply to 135029.13
Date: 3/19/2010 11:27:37 AM
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the merch revenue is the same of the other weeks,the other incomes drops ;D


I remember you from the other thread where you undervalue the merch impact of things like player from your country and NT players. I sold a player like that last week, I can tell you that the effect is quite noticeable.

Sorry,I think you overvalue very very very much the impact of the merchanidising in the economy of a team.If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player

And a team who doesn't make any move on the market,surely has the same merch revenue of the other weeks,while if is eliminated from the playoffs,the other incomes drops

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135029.32 in reply to 135029.20
Date: 3/19/2010 12:39:07 PM
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$650,000 Arena income
150,000 TV contract
125,000 Merchandising
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$925,000...is about what the top teams are making a week...peace

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Date: 3/19/2010 3:25:06 PM
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If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player


Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

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135029.34 in reply to 135029.23
Date: 3/19/2010 5:26:15 PM
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Why should a rookie expect, as if by some divine right, that he will reach the top someday?

For me a game is more interesting if there is some uncertainty, when you wonder if you have what it takes to get to the top division, or even into III or better.

If the game is merely a function of time spent, and one day even if you play relatively poorly you know you will get there, it isn't much of a game.

I would have been happy to start in Division X but alas not possible. If you want rookies to have more fun, especially in small countries, let there be more competition.

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135029.36 in reply to 135029.33
Date: 3/19/2010 5:51:10 PM
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If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player


Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

We're not discussing if a NT/national/draftee player help the merchandisng,becaue we know he do it
The starting point of our discussion was if it was normal that the price of players dropped in post season period,because many teams cannot afford the salary of their new player.AIf we admit a national player will increas of 20k the merch revenue,you have to consider that the same player has a salary at least thrre or four times the merch revenue.from a strcitly economical point of view,however you have to afford more expenses than the money you earn with the increased merch.So,also in these cases,the price of the players should be a little lower in the post season weeks to find a player with the possibility to sustain him.

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135029.37 in reply to 135029.33
Date: 3/20/2010 11:20:38 AM
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But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).


There are lots of facts involved in the merchandising, but nowadays its not worth the difference between buying a national player with high salary(centers) with the little amount of money you receive for him being in his NT. Also im sure that this rating is affected by if they play on a match or not, but as Steve said thats not the point of this discussion.

We are going in the direction that next season, every week we will see players with high salarys like 200+ in the transfer list. Just some managers can afford this kind of players, not to talk players with salarys over 250-300+ and with the new rules where salarys will increase around 10-15%, this kind of players will be discriminated, no-one would like to pay his salarys and we are going to see lots of moves in this players.

But whats happening now? The transfer list is on a inflation spiral, this kind of players that are now in the transfer list their managers try to sell them for 7-10M trying to speculate with them, even if they havent trained, that in most of the cases they dindt train it and they are just trying to make money with the speculation and thats something i said on this forum 1-2 months ago, the transfer market is in one of his worst moments of shape because is full of speculation.

For example i saw 1 player 2 weeks ago trying to be sold for 7M, no one paid then 6,5- 6- 5, 5M and at the end he sold it for the same amount of money that he bought him 5M but paying like i dont know maybe 1-1,2M in salary for 3 weeks.(aprox). The new manager that bought him is trying to do the same(sorry i cant remeber which player now) and we are on the second week and he will commit the same mistake that the last manager did, so at the end he will have to sell it for 5M or less and having paid 1M+ on his salary.


PD: I cant imagine Shaquille O'Neal or Dwight howard or Amare stoudemire being on the transfer list all the time ;)

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135029.38 in reply to 135029.37
Date: 3/20/2010 11:43:24 AM
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There should be only a solution,link the level of incomes of the various countries to their competitivity,weight through some others factors ad for example the numbers of users and so on(otherwise what's the utility of the global rank?),acting on the arenas cap
But it's better to not re-open this argumnent,because the ideas of the two factions are well known

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135029.41 in reply to 135029.39
Date: 3/20/2010 8:11:12 PM
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Well since this big mans makes the difference between winning or losing i dont think they will leave their nt's even if they arent on their best shape.

Apart from that, another thing that will happen with the new rule of the salaries, is that the transfer market of inside mans is going to go down, not just a bit, im sure it will go down for a huge variety of inside mans with salary 50-150k and we will see great differences of prices between outside players and inside players.

We will see how training inside skills and selling after this players, it wont be really worth since there will be more offer than demand, so my advice for all the managers who expects to make money from their training, turn to outside skills that will be more valued, because the market of the outside players will be more or less the same.

I'm also expectating this thing happens because next season i am planning to sell my outside rookies for a great amount of money, so at the same time this new rule it will be good for my team, since i dont have big salaries.

So apart from that the inside man transfer market will be cheaper in the next months on the next play-off we will see how the teams will hire the 200-400k guys for just 1-3 weeks for their play-off so that dates it will be a good time to speculate and try to make the inflation goes up for a short period of time since BB's does not care a lot on markets prices.

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