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143014.31 in reply to 143014.25
Date: 5/7/2010 9:30:34 AM
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In the real world, teams tank games for pretty much the same reasons - better draft picks, playoff positioning, etc. It's just that they don't come out and openly admit to it as some are willing to do here. Don't see why having it in the game would be seen as a fundamental problem with the game. The team should pretty much suffer the same type of consequences - lower fan support due to poorer finish, possibility of the strategy blowing up in their face and being relegated, etc.


Very nice post. And I totally agree that it does happen in the real world. The big difference in the real world there are consequences. In BB finishing 6th is way better than 5th, especially when you can scout your relegation opponent and know that you will likely win. TBH I am totally OK with teams tanking, but think there needs to be some serious risks.

So for example a team that falls far below its fans expectations should see a significant drop in fan support. There merchandising should also take a beating. Another good solution is that the relegation games be on neutral site so there is no income from them.

The current system punishes the 5th place team while giving the 6th and 7th place teams more available income and training. Yes there is a risk of relegation, but it is often quite slim. As the team has intentionaly positioned themselves in a spot they feel is favorable.

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143014.32 in reply to 143014.31
Date: 5/7/2010 10:56:07 AM
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I agree that there probably needs to be greater risks associated with tanking, as it does sound as if there is probably too much incentive for a team to shoot for finishing 6th over 5th and not enough repercussions. Although this is only my first full season, and, personally, I'd love to finish 5th so I don't have to worry about being relegated back down to Div V.

Another option, in addition to the ones you brought up, might be to have the two 5th place teams in a league play each other a home-away series during the playoffs. That way each 5th place team does get two games during the playoffs for training and some arena revenue. Although perhaps that would result in people tanking from 4th to 5th, as 4th place likely doesn't get too much from the playoffs unless they can pull off a bunch of upsets.

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143014.33 in reply to 143014.13
Date: 5/7/2010 8:22:42 PM
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I've got a very simple solution to this problem.

All income from relegation games is equally divided among the 5th, 6th, and 7th place teams in the league, with no regard to who played in the game.

That would remove 99% of the incentive for tanking your way into a relegation match. (The other 1% is that you get a better draft pick.)

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143014.34 in reply to 143014.33
Date: 5/7/2010 8:58:22 PM
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It would work.

I still prefer the relegation tournament as a format, but maybe the cash can be distributed evenly as well.

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143014.35 in reply to 143014.34
Date: 5/8/2010 3:41:35 AM
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I think a better solution would be to give no money for relegation games at all.