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158850.31 in reply to 158850.29
Date: 10/11/2010 6:21:48 PM
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in your opinion, what do you think you did wrong that caused your relegation from your top league?

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158850.32 in reply to 158850.1
Date: 10/11/2010 8:35:59 PM
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To All Aspirants,

What are your long term and short term goals/plans? Please specify weeks/months and be specific.

Thanks.

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158850.33 in reply to 158850.30
Date: 10/11/2010 9:54:02 PM
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i can see the argument here because it is harder to advance from div II to the PPL than from div III to div II, but you have been in div III for 5 season already.


actually, it's just the same. income is bigger in higher divisions so it will be easier to recruit players who will be able to help you a lot. and this is just my fifth season in div III so i've been there four. ^_^

i think that you have tenured your team long enough to somehow be able to advance in the next division.


yes and no. yes, i have been in my league for some time now and no i have not tenured enough because there are managers who have been playing the game long before i did who are in my league right now.

besides, managing your own team for promotion includes training, selling and recruiting players, expanding arena and saving for salaries. you don't do that in a U21 team. ^_^

actually, in all divisions. =)


i know but when you are in PPL, you don't have to grip yourself every season for a team who will be relegated to your league because there's no higher league than PPL in the philippines. i said that bit because every season, a team from div II, which is already an elite division, gets relegated to our league. i hope you got my drift.


i'm not saying that, but what division you are in tells a lot about your managing skills.


partially correct. luck plays a role here also. aside from getting a rookie you can sell for high price, teams in your league will also determine if you would get the promotion or not.

yes, but you must have a concrete plan. what's yours?


about what? the U21 team or my team? if you're speaking about my team, i already got myself a front man who will be the anchor of my team and i'd say if i don't get promoted this season, next season will be my last season in div III.

but if you're talking about the U21, of course, like everyone else, i will assemble the best team we can get. i plan to get 16 players that i can mix and match depending on who we're up against. this is to counter the other team's strength, attack their weakness and keep the other teams guessing about who will play in our next game and what offense we will use.

Last edited by Sharen at 10/11/2010 10:03:22 PM

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158850.34 in reply to 158850.33
Date: 10/12/2010 12:21:31 AM
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sa aking palagay, hindi pwedeng sabihin na pareho lang ang div 3, div 2 at ppl. ...kung level of competition,mas mataas ang level ng kompetisyon sa div2 at ppl kumpara sa div 3. kaya kung exposure sa level ng kompetisyon ang pag uusapan mas lamang ang mga taga ppl at div 2 kumpara sa taga div 3.

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158850.35 in reply to 158850.31
Date: 10/12/2010 1:32:34 AM
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nothing :-)

this was planned, i made a win of 550k every weak and I have a nice draftee, with my roster, there wasn't any chance to stay in the league, so I decided to handle the situation that way

now I had a lot of money and I have the chance to come up in the top league again ;-)

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158850.36 in reply to 158850.33
Date: 10/12/2010 4:46:24 AM
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Naglaro ka since season 8 and until now division 3 ka pa din? Wla nmang asenso ata. At sa players mo, isang 80k and the rest weak? Mga 2-3 seasons lng buo na ng isang ok n manager yan.

What NEW THINGS will you do to top what have they done before to our u21? Explain it clearly and detailed.

actually, i don't have any.


Sasabihin ko ulit, wlang asenso, walang plano.

Wla ako problema na isang foreigner ang maghandle ng team. Kung maging team nya un, gawin din nman nya khit ano basta manalo. Buti pa siya may mga concrete plan kung ano ggwin.

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158850.37 in reply to 158850.34
Date: 10/12/2010 4:48:30 AM
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sa aking palagay, hindi pwedeng sabihin na pareho lang ang div 3, div 2 at ppl. ...kung level of competition,mas mataas ang level ng kompetisyon sa div2 at ppl kumpara sa div 3. kaya kung exposure sa level ng kompetisyon ang pag uusapan mas lamang ang mga taga ppl at div 2 kumpara sa taga div 3.


if you would compare div II and PPL and div II and div III, of course they're different levels. but if you would compare a div II going against a div II team and a div III team going against a div III team, there's not much of a difference if we're talking about their head to head match up. not unless, of course, if there is an obvious mismatch.

now this mismatch i am talking about is not so apparent if you're playing in PPL, especially if you're a PPL mainstay and a playoff contender. this mismatch, as i've said, happens most of the time if a team gets relegated from higher division to a lower one.

say, your team gets relegated to div II. do you think you'd be able to convince me that your team won't be contending for championship in div III? not a chance. ^_^

having said that, it actually makes me think that it's much difficult for a new team who is just beginning than those who are playing for the longest time and have already made a balanced team and have already build their arena for income. and where do these newbies start from? lower leagues right? ^_^

conclusion: even if a BB manager has the skills, if he is just beginning to play this game, will take a long time before he actually makes it to the elite leagues. but then again, it doesn't mean that he is inferior to those who are in the elite leagues.

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158850.38 in reply to 158850.36
Date: 10/12/2010 4:54:56 AM
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Naglaro ka since season 8 and until now division 3 ka pa din? Wla nmang asenso ata. At sa players mo, isang 80k and the rest weak? Mga 2-3 seasons lng buo na ng isang ok n manager yan.

What NEW THINGS will you do to top what have they done before to our u21? Explain it clearly and detailed.

Sasabihin ko ulit, wlang asenso, walang plano.

Wla ako problema na isang foreigner ang maghandle ng team. Kung maging team nya un, gawin din nman nya khit ano basta manalo. Buti pa siya may mga concrete plan kung ano ggwin.


is this a joke?

ikaw, naglalaro ka simula pa season 3, kung kelan nagsimula ang BB sa pinas pero ang team mo nasa div II tas magmamalaki ka sa ken ng asenso? come on! kung manager ng The Social Climbers ang magsasabi sa ken nyan o si JSMoove, tatanggapin ko. but not from you, dude.

magbigay ka ng isang halimbawa ng NEW THINGS na pwedeng gawin para manalo sa international competition? ah, lemme guess. gumamit ng LI all tournament long? :P

EDIT:

tas subukan mo rin mag-back read. may mga sinabi akong plano dyan. hinay hinay sa pagputok ng butse. minsan ang baril pag mali ang kasa, nagba-backfire. ^_^

Last edited by Sharen at 10/12/2010 5:19:00 AM

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158850.39 in reply to 158850.38
Date: 10/12/2010 5:33:37 AM
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pre hinay hinay lang din, sarcastic ang dating ng mga sagot mo dito sa forums eh. remember, we should refrain from personal attacks. and since you are running for an important position, everyone has the right to ask about your plans and how will you go about to do it.

ang point dito ni LA-Ubaldo eh kung track record ang pagbabasihan, medyo kulang pa ang credentials mo. hindi naman dapat sana puro excuses lang. kung talagang maayos kang manager, makikita yun sa performance ng team mo. malaki ang kaibahan ng competition sa div III at div II/PPL much more international competitions. kung sa division III lang eh hirap ka ng maka-aangat man lang, i'm sure mas mahihirapan ka sa NT competitions.

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158850.40 in reply to 158850.39
Date: 10/12/2010 6:11:33 AM
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am i the one to start getting sarcastic? oh please.

personal attacks, eh? which part?

please read my answers and get back to me with a plausible argument. hindi yung puro div II at PPL ang sinasabi natin.

actually, why don't you convince the managers in PPL or div II to run? more importantly, why none of them vied for the post? why don't you?

EDIT:

don't expect me to kiss everybody's ass just so i would win their vote. i'm not a politician. if i am attacked, i bite back. i'm not to back down just because i'm "just" from div III.

Last edited by Sharen at 10/12/2010 6:14:32 AM

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