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Is the "group demonstration" worthwhile? My assumption would be a strong "no", so much so that I wonder if I'm missing something here.

It depends on what you are looking for, but I think Group Demonstration is almost never worthwile except in the case someone already mentioned: If there are more than 10 18-year olds with one and two balls.

It is worthwile, however, if you are looking for both 19 and 18-year olds. The thing is, I can't think of any reason someone would want to pick a 19-year old over an 18-year old rookie. I think you can't compare any 19-year old rookie, who is coming from draft, to a 19-year old who has already have a full season of training and came from draft a year earlier as a 18-year old.

In my draft, I first wanted to see the ages and heights of all draftees, so I used Scouting cominbe function. Which is, in my opinion, the best way to go. After that, I found only 4 18-year olds were among 1 and 2 ball rated players. Since I wanted to see only 18-year olds, using Group demonstration would be a loss of points. Why?

Group Demonstration is the same as "Scouted once". But option "Scouted once" uses only one point. So if I used Group demonstration to see all four 18-year olds, I'd spend 10 points on a thing I could use only 4 points.

I hope I made myself clear, since I'm not a native english speaker...

i've got these guys:
- 5 balls A+ with 4 balls potential 18yo
- 5 balls A- with 5 balls potential 18yo

who is better? what salary is a A+ and a A-?

First of all, it depends on whether you are drafting the player to train or you are drafting the player mainly just to sell. If you're planning to sell, then I recommend drafting the second draftee with 5 ball potential. Young player with high potential can be sold for a quite good price on TL. You could always argue that the first player has a better starting skill because it is A+, but I personally think that there isn't much difference between + and -. And you could always train A- player for the first few weeks and get his weak skills up, then sell him etc.
A+ is definitely better than A- but I don't think the difference is very significant. Not sure about the salary though.

It depends on what you are looking for, but I think Group Demonstration is almost never worthwile except in the case someone already mentioned: If there are more than 10 18-year olds with one and two balls.

Yes and no. In my case I had 9 18-year-olds in that group so you could argue that it's not worth the 10 points. But in my case I found 2 19-year-olds in there with a 5 skill rating. Their box scores look pretty nice so if I have enough scouting points in the end and if these 2 have good potential and the right position, they might still make it to the top 5 or top 10 in my list.

I wouldn't mind 3-4k 19yo Allstar+ in my third round pick. Why do you stay away from them in scouting when you could pick up a gem in the third round?

I hope I made myself clear, since I'm not a native english speaker...

If only our 43rd president spoke this coherently.

Imo the best way to start is by combine. U'll get all the heights and ages of all draftees. That's a great ground to go further. You can select 18yo's and separate them from 19yo's, sort them by height and then continue with your scouting depending on which position u r looking etc.
I used the combine and got 19 18yo's from which only 6 had worse than 3star raiting (and of course I wont even wanna consider looking at them anymore). Things looking pretty good this year :)

Last edited by TauriPG at 11/30/2010 8:43:15 AM

Anybody knows the sallary of A- and A+?
A- should be around 3.7-4k but A+? over 5k?6k?

Anybody knows the sallary of A- and A+?

He asked for grade rating salary. Not salary of star rating.

I don't think there is any difference but A+ would have higher chance of being a better player because he played better.

Actually A+ DOES always have a higher salary compared to A-. It has nothing to do with how well he played in that particular match.

Imo the best way to start is by combine. U'll get all the heights and ages of all draftees. That's a great ground to go further. You can select 18yo's and separate them from 19yo's, sort them by height and then continue with your scouting depending on which position u r looking etc.
I used the combine and got 19 18yo's from which only 6 had worse than 3star raiting (and of course I wont even wanna consider looking at them anymore). Things looking pretty good this year

I assume that with "3star rating" you mean 3 grey balls? Please don't assume that the grey balls you see in the beginning mean anything. They're really useless and you can ignore them. The players with 1 grey ball are probably just as good as the ones with 5 grey balls.