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168951.32 in reply to 168951.29
Date: 2/11/2011 4:43:04 PM
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I remember someone telling me that auto promotion is not as good as winning the championship because you do not get the boost in season ticket holders, and not as good of fan survey. My first season in D2, after winning D3 championship, I was able to have higher ticket prices and bring in much more revenue then I am now, basically off the strength of the fan survey.

After that its the same stuff, you want good attendance you have to win road games, TV, and rivalry, which is really frustrating because its really hard to win road games when you are a good but not great D2 team. Most of the time you need to make sure you win your home games and build enthusiasm, so on the road you need to TIE vs the home team going Normal...which has happened to me 3 times this season, all 3 losses, and after those 3 games I got poor attendance at the following home game. HCA+effort differential is basically a 20 point advantage IMO, and that's tough to overcome.

Also this season we didn't get an NBBA team demoting into our league like we usually do, so the league is not as strong as it has been in past seasons, which may affect the merchandising.

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168951.33 in reply to 168951.32
Date: 2/11/2011 5:04:57 PM
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After that its the same stuff, you want good attendance you have to win road games, TV, and rivalry, which is really frustrating because its really hard to win road games when you are a good but not great D2 team. Most of the time you need to make sure you win your home games and build enthusiasm, so on the road you need to TIE vs the home team going Normal...which has happened to me 3 times this season, all 3 losses, and after those 3 games I got poor attendance at the following home game. HCA+effort differential is basically a 20 point advantage IMO, and that's tough to overcome.


This is the part that I think needs to be reevaluated by the BBs. The HCA is too great. Period. If i dont catch a road team TIEing while I normal or some other like situation, i dont have a chance in hell of winning, even against slightly inferior teams or superior teams running bad tactics.

From: Mr. Hyde

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168951.34 in reply to 168951.31
Date: 2/11/2011 5:06:06 PM
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Oh, I understand that there is a lot of components to this and that two seemingly identical things don't have necessarily to have much in common, but still, none of that explains how could I have a bigger attendance in a lower division than here. Div. 2 should attract more fans than Div. 3. Period.

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168951.35 in reply to 168951.34
Date: 2/11/2011 5:28:46 PM
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In a real world setting, I suppose that would be true. However, losing in two straight games in your League III finals probably did not help your attendance at all going into this season. I think that is probably the difference maker between our two teams as far as attendance goes.

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168951.36 in reply to 168951.35
Date: 2/11/2011 7:38:38 PM
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It might be the difference between our two teams, but I still see no sense in the fact that I have been drawing more fans in lower division than I do here. And quiet frankly, I don't understand why everyone keep skipping that part of my argument.

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168951.37 in reply to 168951.36
Date: 2/11/2011 7:43:41 PM
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Man.. All of my Cup game have been on the ROAD... what the hell? I know they have been easy.. but you figure it would even out to some degree.. sheesh

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168951.38 in reply to 168951.36
Date: 2/11/2011 10:32:32 PM
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I didn't say it made sense that you have fewer fans now. I was just saying that, as far as Buzzerbeater world goes, that is the reason.

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168951.39 in reply to 168951.38
Date: 2/12/2011 6:14:15 AM
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I think I finally run out of steam. Besides, anything anyone here could say on this subject will make no difference on the way BB runs things, so yeah, I'm done for today. As a matter of fact, I might be done for a whole month.

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168951.40 in reply to 168951.39
Date: 2/12/2011 10:41:14 AM
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LOL

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