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16940.31 in reply to 16940.28
Date: 2/27/2008 3:47:33 PM
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I think your underestimating even the weakest NBA teams. Even the worst teams can catch fire and beat a better team. I think the GE does a pretty good job of keeping the results random to parallel this.

It just seems wholly unrealistic that a coach would tell his team to go "take it easy" in a competitive game.

I would disagree that it's important for weaker teams to have a tool to target stronger teams and beat them. Better tactics, better training, better purchases and financial planning, these should be the tools that teams use to get better and beat stronger teams, IMO.

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Date: 2/27/2008 4:28:29 PM
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Or, translated in game terms here: even the worst team can CT and beat a stronger team that is underestimating them and Taking [the game] Easy.


Underestimating is totally different then consciously telling your team to perform worse they there normal abilities. And then, the result of telling your team to perform worse is that they will play better than their normal ability next game.

You're relating this to something like "team confidence" in hattrick, which actually makes some sense. When you play weaker teams you're sometimes punished for being overconfident against a team, and they're is no strategic gain to that.

I understand what your saying about enthusiasm and how you use it to pace your team, but, it just doesn't jive with reality. Rotating players and keeping them in good shape (game shape!) is key to pacing your players in reality, and it's already mirrored here and currently adding to the complexity of the game.

You might prefer enthusiasm even if it's unrealistic, great, thats your opinion.

Last edited by brian at 2/27/2008 4:30:38 PM

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Date: 2/27/2008 4:49:41 PM
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Continuing with your analogy then:

If a coach does a poor job preparing the team and/or gives a bad pep talk for the game. But the next game, the coach gets back to work and prepares like he normally does, and now they play even better?

to push this further:

The coach becomes a total slacker for a week, and the team is unprepared and is not motivated by their coach. Then, he decides to get back to the usual preparation and bam, the team is several levels better. Huh?

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Date: 2/27/2008 5:19:39 PM
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Koz,

The "new" system would still allow weaker teams to surprise better teams by CT'ing.

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Date: 2/27/2008 5:42:55 PM
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Except the magnitude of this effect is severely diminished, because the better teams won't be able to TIE. That's my point.

Actually, that's our point.

Right now, all the best teams are TIE'ing almost every game. So when we do run into a minnow, our enthu is so high that even an ill-conceived CT on the minnow's part (which would result in them losing subsequent games against lesser competition) would not result in a "shock" victory for the minnow.

That's the first good point you've made.

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Date: 2/27/2008 6:41:13 PM
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Couldn't you effectively end agreements like this by giving no enthusiasm bonus if both teams TIE?

I realize there is some downside to this...but just thought I throw it out there.


Steve
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Last edited by Solana_Steve at 2/27/2008 8:13:57 PM

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