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Pointless. Just buy and sell, that's what the transfer system is for.

agreed... so many potential complications...

now if we had our own jnr team/feeder team in an international random reserve league we could train even more youngsters!!

Indeed. I don't think that any loan system will occur, because it is far far too easy to abuse, but I'm enjoying the challenge of the debate.

all the points are valid IF teams continue to be controlled by the users that brokered the loan agreement... if someone cheats and gets suspended or just becomes a bot its just going to get messy.

loaning players for non-competitive games only may work.. a try before you buy feature... play in scrimmages.. with a view to purchasing... this way you can try someone with certain skills to see how they improve your team ratings...

Well you have put time into your proposal and i will give you that. I have as well and i understand that nothing will work if you make it to complicated which you are trying to do. The idea is a good one in my opinion and can be arranged like the transfer list. The idea is to help lower division teams as well as the loaned players. That is why in real life you have youth teams and college and why some players are loaned out to other teams to get better. Now why would i pay $250,000 to train a player when i can buy one for the same price. People want to cut down on day trading. Train your players instead of buying them means you buy less players and the day traders get stuck with more players. The lower division teams gets a player who will help them for FREE. FREE do you understand that concept. A star player four a lower division team that will help him put fans in the seats and get a better record. This also helps them as well. Now my player improves and their team improves for the season. The player is on his roster so he can do what he would like and i need to trust the manager i am loaning the player to that he wont screw me over. It is that simple.

Lets not over complicate things.

For the last time (since you don't seem to understand):

Now why would i pay $250,000 to train a player when i can buy one for the same price.

The team who own the player pay the fee to have a player trained for them. The team who receive the loan player and train the player receive $250,000 for doing so. I thought the entire basis for your proposal was that lower-league teams cannot afford trainees, yet you are unable to understand a system which rewards teams for taking on trainees?

The lower division teams gets a player who will help them for FREE. FREE do you understand that concept.

Better than you understand my proposal, it seems. The team who receive the loan player DO NOT PAY ANYTHING for doing so. Instead they get paid.

Now my player improves and their team improves for the season. The player is on his roster so he can do what he would like and i need to trust the manager i am loaning the player to that he wont screw me over.

To guarantee this, the two teams agree on how the loan player will be trained. Then the fee is deducted from the owning team's finances and set aside for the duration of the loan. At the end of the loan period, if BOTH teams agree that the terms have been met, then the fee is paid out to the receiving team. If both teams agree that the terms were not met, the fee is returned to the owning team. If they disagree, then an arbitrator decides the case.

Now my player improves and their team improves for the season.

Your condescending attitude to teams less fortunate than yours is showing through. By your system, there is no incentive for teams to train players they take on loan. Through mine, there is. Secondly, you are assuming (with no factual basis) that these teams will be improved by taking on a scrub from your squad.

That is why in real life you have youth teams and college and why some players are loaned out to other teams to get better.

This game is not real-life. The players in the draft in division II are NOT BETTER than the players available in the draft in Division IV. To use the comparison with real life as a basis for a player loan system in this game is idiotic.

Argh, enough. Your irrational tendencies, misplaced sense of righteousness and inability to comprehend my proposal are making me dizzy. From now on, you can discuss this topic on your own. Bye!

It`s no way that I would ever agree to this idea...

Would you like to explain why?

we`ll have much more cheaters... As well it`ll be too hard to track them out and punish for that...

Yes, this is one of the principle flaws of any loan system in games of this type. No matter how it is set up, the potential for abuse fatally harms any set-up.

And there would be too many bans from game... We would loose many users... Just my opinion...

One of the simplest reasons this idea has no legs is that the effect would be a net nil as compared to other non-bot teams riding on the presumption that every team would obtain a high quality loaned player.

I would like to get drunk without puking, too.
ain't gonna happen.

What? Totally possible. Just gotta find that equilibrium point...