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20034.31 in reply to 20034.30
Date: 3/22/2008 9:40:21 AM
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no because "guard" and "center" are just the suggested roles
unless they give different values to the skills based on height


actually my theorie is: players suggested position is always the position where they would earn most. its just a theory but it would work this way.

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20034.32 in reply to 20034.31
Date: 3/22/2008 9:50:26 AM
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actually my theorie is: players suggested position is always the position where they would earn most. its just a theory but it would work this way.


that makes sense

but that's different than what you said before

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20034.33 in reply to 20034.29
Date: 3/22/2008 9:55:35 AM
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first I have read the complete post ;-)

But lets quit the skills part, the most important thing is how much a player contributes to the team performance right?


TRUE!!! Look on your example on the transfer list. he is having an average rating of 7.5. a center with 2 prominents and 1 prolific would receive ratings about 10

I cannot say much about the netherlands nationalteam, because i dont see their skills AND we do not really know how much the positions influence which rating, using a certain tactic. maybe PFs influence the outs Def rating more than we expect at the moment. So talking about the netherlands NT would be a lot speculations for all of us. Only the coach of them could say a little about it.

BUT look at the game engine changes. BB had to make the outside focus better, cause teams with an inside focus had an advantage. That alone makes me think inside players were more contributing to the team than outside players.

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20034.34 in reply to 20034.33
Date: 3/22/2008 10:07:22 AM
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TRUE!!! Look on your example on the transfer list. he is having an average rating of 7.5. a center with 2 prominents and 1 prolific would receive ratings about 10


Not true, check out my main center, he got exactly 2 prominents and 1 prolific, he averages 8.5, and yet again, this is the personal rating, instead of the teamratings.

So talking about the netherlands NT would be a lot speculations for all of us. Only the coach of them could say a little about it.

Since I'm a scout of the NT Netherland I know the stats of every single player in the NT, and I know the stats of most of the talents as well, so I guess I could say something about it.

BUT look at the game engine changes. BB had to make the outside focus better, cause teams with an inside focus had an advantage. That alone makes me think inside players were more contributing to the team than outside players.


They didn't make the outside focus better, they just changed the fact that guards didn't hit enough shots. You will probably still see the same ratings, but just more shots will go in. Quote out of the news post:

We will be increasing the efficiency of longer-range jump shots in order to improve this balance.


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20034.35 in reply to 20034.34
Date: 3/22/2008 10:31:46 AM
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Not true, check out my main center, he got exactly 2 prominents and 1 prolific, he averages 8.5, and yet again, this is the personal rating, instead of the teamratings.


you must be doing something wrong. ;-)

my centers are not even clos to 1 proefcient and the receive 8.0 ratings^^

They didn't make the outside focus better, they just changed the fact that guards didn't hit enough shots. You will probably still see the same ratings, but just more shots will go in. Quote out of the news post:

i havnt said anything against it. as long as my guards are contributing to win the game, I dont really care what team ratings I have. BBs change how many outs. shots they hit, then I dont mind if the ratings wont change.

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20034.36 in reply to 20034.34
Date: 3/22/2008 10:41:40 AM
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The ratings are definitely NOT where you should go to find your best examples.

There is a quite a number of guards playing in first division here in Brasil (Amaury Leopardo for the Devils, Nuno Maia for Bauducco) with great ratings, and they still don't earn half of what my french center does (11k A.L. (9,5 average rating) and 19k N.M. (9,5 average rating) vs. 37k (9,0 average rating) my center)

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20034.37 in reply to 20034.36
Date: 3/22/2008 10:55:53 AM
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Why not?

This is just another example of the effectivness of guards.
Look at the way they contribute to the team ratings, you will see that the outside ratings of those teams with the 11k and 19k guards are higher than the inside rating of your team, with the 37k center. (if both would play a normal focus)

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20034.38 in reply to 20034.37
Date: 3/22/2008 10:57:59 AM
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I know!
it was supposed to be an answer to Huzzel
ratings arent good example for him

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20034.39 in reply to 20034.23
Date: 3/22/2008 5:41:28 PM
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it is way easier to train centers, cause u only have to train 4 skills, compared to 6 skills for a guard. Thats one reason why so many decided to train centers.

I have heard this hundreds of times and I still disagree with it.

SG do not need more skills than C.
PF need at least one skill more than C (JS)
PG do indeed need more, I would say at least 5 (although a PG without great shooting can still perform very well).

And do not forget that guards do already train faster (ask a NT coach) and that handling and driving train one-another.

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20034.41 in reply to 20034.39
Date: 3/23/2008 4:34:58 AM
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And do not forget that guards do already train faster (ask a NT coach) and that handling and driving train one-another.


i dont need to. I read the rules , so I konw that one trains the other 80%. 80% is more then a normal secondary training, however it is not that it is one skill. anyways

SG do not need more skills than C.

ask the community what the community thinks a Sg needs. Most will say the need 6 skills. I would agrree. they would as well say a center only needs 4. u might add some secondary skills for centers. true but what about those secondary skills for guards (reb. IS)

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