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From: Kilrtom
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Considering your team will get the 2nd overall pick, ild suggest you do a group demonstration (if you can afford it) and go for the highest rated stars. Who knows, you might get lucky and get a decent potential.

Thats assuming you dont have many points.

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Date: 5/28/2013 5:06:27 PM
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I will pick 15th and i am aiming for this guy. I doubt many people in my league spend a lot of points for draft and even if they do, i dont think any of them would go for the low numbers. I have another guy with 5/4 and both of them are in the last 3rd of the list.
so fingers are crossed = ))

5/5 PF A- 18 6'4" / 193 cm
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40 10 - 18 0 - 3 11 - 12 1 4 1 5 2 3 5 31

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Well your thinking is hopeful but that isn't really the case because all the draft orders are random. For instance player 42 for you could be player 7 for someone else in your league because it just scrambles all the draftees randomly for each team.

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From: redcped

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Well your thinking is hopeful but that isn't really the case because all the draft orders are random. For instance player 42 for you could be player 7 for someone else in your league because it just scrambles all the draftees randomly for each team.


But aren't players 1-8 (roughly) going to show up initially as 5-ball, etc.?

What you're saying is that none of the scouts have any of the initial information right, and a guy could be anywhere from 1 to 5 initially and it's all randomized. So that makes scouting a total shot in the dark, doesn't it?

I was at least basing my approach on the idea that 5-ball guys initially were more likely to end up really being 5-ball players when scouted. Is that false? Do I have just as much chance of finding a good draftee by picking from the 1-ball and 2-ball guys initially?

From: E.B.W.

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Date: 5/28/2013 5:19:37 PM
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Yes. The 5 ball potential hall of famer with a 5k starting salary can be anywhere on the list. Same goes for the 2/2 scrub that no one wants. The grey balls mean nothing.

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From: Kilrtom

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I was at least basing my approach on the idea that 5-ball guys initially were more likely to end up really being 5-ball players when scouted. Is that false? Do I have just as much chance of finding a good draftee by picking from the 1-ball and 2-ball guys initially?


Yeah the grey balls pretty much mean nothing. 5 balls can be anywhere in the draft. Sometimes making the group demonstration worthwhile.

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Personally I love the group demonstration because it usually reveals at least 2 good prospects.

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Date: 5/28/2013 7:59:44 PM
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Yeah I should have gone with the group demo. Instead I focused on taller players and have found absolute crap.

My best prospect at this point is a 4 ball non-interview 19 yr old. My next best is a 3 ball.

The three guys I have interviewed ended up 1/2 ball pot.

Anyway next season I'll just go for the group demo and not care about height/age. Unless I save a bunch of draft points its just not worth doing the combine as it leaves very little for interviews.

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Date: 5/28/2013 10:01:49 PM
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Good plan. I wont be drafting in awhile. This season by doing the group demo though, I found my new franchise player (5/4 A+) and a 5/3 who were both 18. Hopefully I can pick up the 5/3 guy in the 2nd round as well.

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From: redcped

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Date: 5/28/2013 11:23:08 PM
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Yes. The 5 ball potential hall of famer with a 5k starting salary can be anywhere on the list. Same goes for the 2/2 scrub that no one wants. The grey balls mean nothing.


Thank you for the explanation. It amazes me how I've done anything well in this game at all not having information like that all this time. It had never occurred to me before that they would intentionally mislead you.

The draft/scouting page says: "Your scouts have provided a very rough estimate of the player's skills and potential based on the word on the streets. Expect this evaluation to be fairly inaccurate."

There's a big gap between fairly inaccurate and totally random, isn't there? At least fairly inaccurate suggests that there is some rhyme or reason, that if you have to start somewhere the guys at the top shouldn't be completely awful potentially.

Word on the street might overhype a guy, but it's pretty unlikely that it would call a guy with no skills or potential a 5-ball prospect at any point. I could understand if a guy initially shown as 5 might drop as low as 3 when scouted, and that there can be some surprises among the 1-ball guys. But it should have at least some accuracy, shouldn't it?

Now at least I understand why I have yet to draft a great prospect.

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