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IMO it would need to be 1 used for both NT sides



Sounds like a great compromise . (Never really got into the offsite forum)


I disagree. The U21 NT is its own entity and much larger than the NT. To keep the federation easy to access I would separate the U21 from the NT.

So when does the election start and conclude and for those who dont know or cant remember how does one vote?


It has already started. Click 'election' link and it gives the timeframe.

Quite impressed with the quality of the 3 candidates who have already put their name forward and fully agree with Iwen.

Having the best strategic mind does not automatically make one the best person to take on the role.


Iwen's a legend. Simple. :-)

I have a feeling that it might be a close election with such a high quality field.


I hope so. More fun.

Are all 3 of you willing to help in a support role should you be unsuccessful at winning the election?

Definately. In fact, if I am not elected I will continue to build the Federation I have mentioned so that in the future it may be utilised. I haven't done anything with it so far as I haven't been elected so was reluctant to put all the effort in for it to be wasted; however, I will build it regardless. If I build it they will come! Eventually. Maybe.

What is it the one thing that each of you can and will do better than the other candidates?

I don't know Mickyster or Ezilfe well other than what I see of them on the forums. Mickyster has been, imo, extremely active and is always involved in the BB community in some capacity.

What can I do better? Not sure how to answer that. I am a teacher and have held previous managerial positions so I guess I am a leader of sorts and an organiser. Attributes that are clearly suited to the U21 NT.

Of the more senior Managers in the game, who do each of you believe that you most resemble in style and mannerisms?


None come to mind. I have had some great mentors (see those listed in my speech). I am...unique! lol

Are any of you actually Latino under another alias?

I choose not to answer that question on the grounds it might incriminate me. lol
No, definately not Latino.


From: ezlife

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Sorry, did I just read all I could do in the weakest aussie d2 conference was to win 14 games?!

I won 14 games AND made it to the grand finals with a... wait for it... 300K ROSTER. Shall I also remind you that I trained my kids since they were 19 without demoting?

I'm not gonna write a book about my personnal life. I've been around for a long time and I know what I'm doing. Mentoring and other stuff, all blah blah. I've been there before (SA U21 manager).

I will definitely not get involved if someone else is elected because I believe the only few that understand well the game will not sign up and I'll not babysit a newbie.

EDIT: oh yeah, my 300k roster also barely missed to upset the 500k roster of CC in the final game, at his arena and with less enthousiasm.

Last edited by ezlife at 6/11/2013 12:27:05 PM

From: yodabig

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You are a great manager, a great person and even a great baller in real life. But your league was pathetic last season lets face it. As you said it you nearly won it with a $300k roster. So why the heck didn't you pick up another player at some stage and actually win?

From: ezlife

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Here is a ways more interesting question. I remember answering this in the game chatlog. I had (and still have) the cash to buy a solid frontcourt.

However, what's the point in promoting? My trainees are good but not quiet there. That means I could have promoted and suffered from training them in the ABBL. That would have most likely caused my demotion. So then I would find myself right back in d2, with trainees that are too expensive to give them a solid help and some stuffed merchandise following the demotion. In other words, stuck here for a long time. I don't want a short ABBL trip for the sake of it, I'm gonna establish myself there.

This is about timing. Don't rush things. I now have a 2 seasons gap to promote and I'm not gonna miss it. It's about the salary efficiency of your trainees, your bankroll and the situation you are in.

I take everything into consideration. This season, I'll have the fan survey bonus from a solid previous season. I will be able to afford a sweet team while remaining in a relatively easy conference.

A wise manager once said: "BB is a marathon, not a sprint."

From: Leeroy

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Can't say I enjoyed my second term, though I did stop Latino from winning the election so you can all ball me for that.


I will give you a ball every day for the whole season for that effort lol.

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Date: 6/11/2013 7:06:21 PM
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Reminds me of Aussie cricket really. The mentoring that mllama had with the likes of iwen, c-cat, dirwolf, j-dog and seagulls was similar to the golden era of shane warne, glen mcgrath, david gillespie, steve waugh, ricky ponting, adam gilchrist, matthew hayden, justin langerand a few more that I can't recall.

Aussie cricket then had a period of mediocrity when most of the greats retired similar to the Aus U21 when iwen (Ponting) had to do it all alone when mllama, c-cat, direwolf, j-dog, seagulls and co. found less time on BB.

Now we have the new generation with full of enthusiasm and new ideas (i.e federations). Who can take on the role of Micheal Clarke and lead us into the new era?

My vote will go to the one who I think will have longevity in the game.

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Does that make me ricky ponting? I'll take that.

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Sorry, did I just read all I could do in the weakest aussie d2 conference was to win 14 games?!

I won 14 games AND made it to the grand finals with a... wait for it... 300K ROSTER. Shall I also remind you that I trained my kids since they were 19 without demoting?

I'm not gonna write a book about my personnal life. I've been around for a long time and I know what I'm doing. Mentoring and other stuff, all blah blah. I've been there before (SA U21 manager).

I will definitely not get involved if someone else is elected because I believe the only few that understand well the game will not sign up and I'll not babysit a newbie.

EDIT: oh yeah, my 300k roster also barely missed to upset the 500k roster of CC in the final game, at his arena and with less enthousiasm.


Can I just clear up something. You are the second person to directly/indirectly have a dig at my long speech and background information. I simply gave my BB background as if you check out previous U21 NT speeches (which seems the smart thing to do imo) then you will see this has been the nor. I simply wanted managers who didn't know who I am...to see what I have done...even if it isn't much...yet.

Secondy, "not a sprint but a marathon". That is why I am where I am. I'm in no hurry to make ABBL; I simply want to get there when my team is ready. Not, to get there, survive a season and then get relegated. No, longevity...as Koops has spoken of...is the key in this game.

Thirdly, in case people have thought me too dismissive of Mickyster's 5 Federation issue I thought a brief poll to gauge peeps interests would be beneficial at this point. If you could go to the "5 Federations" thread and cast your vote I think would be helpful. Afterall, my 'system', if you like, is intended to be a communal one.

From: Leeroy

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You can be Steve Waugh.

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Don't be stupid. You are Stuart mcgill

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Yeah iwen already took Ponting LOL

The reason I value longevity in the game is because whoever is going to the U21 manager will most likely be creating the Federation for the U21. If that manager decides to go inactive, then the Fed will most likely go inactive too due to lack of maintenance. What are the powers of a mod in the Federation should the creator go inactive?

Can they invite new people to the Fed or boot people from the Fed?
Can they modify/sticky threads in the Fed?

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