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S34 Salary floor increase: Comedy or drama?

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Date: 2/19/2016 6:09:24 AM
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I did the calculation in my mind and I was wrong (age I assume): 5438*10+500*35+60*100+2*800=54380+17500+6000+1600=79480. My bad for that, but point still remains that he's selling out and could charge much much higher prices and with a 50% increase might still sell out in D2. I had LT over 50 and courtside at 130 in D4 in Utopia if I remember correctly

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I did the calculation in my mind and I was wrong (age I assume): 5438*10+500*35+60*100+2*800=54380+17500+6000+1600=79480. My bad for that, but point still remains that he's selling out and could charge much much higher prices and with a 50% increase might still sell out in D2. I had LT over 50 and courtside at 130 in D4 in Utopia if I remember correctly


of course he could. He is a newbie (about to become bot, like so many), so don't expect him to plan like a long tenured manager that makes no mistakes with his second team.

And btw. I suggested (years ago) that arenas for new teams should be much bigger depending on Divison. I think I was asking for 15k, 10k, 7.5k (DIV I, II, III). Why not let the new teams catch up much faster? There is no excitement in expanding the arena anyways - the unforseeable delays because of lazy workers, are annoying anyways.

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Date: 2/19/2016 6:58:46 AM
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I suggested they cut the cost of building seats actually, seasons and seasons ago. You may achieve the same result by applying a discount on seats for a limited time (let's say those 16 weeks) which is greater the higher the level you start, so D1=30% off, D2=20% off, D3=10% off and D4=10% off for 16 weeks only (percentages are just random). Then they revert to the normal values.

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Date: 2/19/2016 7:05:32 AM
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whatever makes the game easier...

...but on the other hand, why should we make some changes that need some action on behalf of a user, that most likely is overwhelmed with the complexity of the game and has no clue how to get started in the first place? Just add those seats from the beginning and lets get on with it.

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I see, that the salary floor in "competitive" leagues might be too low - good indicator would be demoting teams, that promote the next season, but then again we could raise the demotion penalty and hurt specific teams that underperform.


That seems to also be attacking the results, not the behavio(u)r. If the goal is to prevent tanking, it needs to address that, not the teams that go 8-14 but lose a relegation series.

On the salary floor, there's a lot of posting about how this negatively impacts new teams in, I presume, smaller nations (since a new team in the USA in IV would have a quite comfortable salary floor still). The figures I've seen about tripling the salaries and having $200k+ salary floors clearly would not apply in anything below a very competitive II league, and probably more likely a semi-competitive I.

So what if the actual application of the salary floor is phased in based on the league level? If you're in IV, after 16 weeks you should be fine. Maybe even the same for III, since that's under 110k for me both in the US and A and in Utopia, but then 32 weeks for II and 48 weeks for I. That gives those teams who may actually have a legitimate gripe more of an opportunity to get their team built up to a point to conform.

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Date: 2/19/2016 11:41:09 AM
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I am in no position to decide that. The analyst will have to evaluate their changes...

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Date: 2/19/2016 12:24:47 PM
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Inflation in the economy is so bad, your best financial option is to tank and ride out this storm.

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Date: 2/19/2016 3:34:05 PM
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I don't see the need to spoon feed managers.
Yay, we agree!


and an advanced trainer is likely to be beyond the reach of a new team trying to get above the salary floor.
You can get one for 5k bid with a low salary as long as you dont shop now at the start of the season. A lvl3 one can be aquiered for 1k and he will have a low salary.
Two points: one, it is the start of the season NOW, not the middle. Two, it doesn't matter, a new team cannot get their guys trained up in 16 weeks, let alone eight weeks starting in the middle of the season.

But I fully support Perpetes suggestion of a longer exception from the floor.
{and from another post}
So what if the actual application of the salary floor is phased in based on the league level?
Note the two bolded lines ... when you have to start changing and diluting a new feature that has been in effect less than a week, odds are it isn't a good feature.


And training is something every new manager should do. Specially now with the new change in the starting roster.
Please, I have a question: what is "the new change in the starting roster" you mention? Thanks.

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Date: 2/19/2016 4:10:12 PM
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Apparently you're guaranteed a decent 18yo trainee (allstar potential, mind you) when you pick up a new team.

All considered, nobody would really care if they increased the number to 2 players like that. I would also lock them to the team for 16 weeks.

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Date: 2/19/2016 4:14:12 PM
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I really doubt you need that long. In a semicompetitive D1 you could build your arena in 1 season if you do nothing at all and just accumulate money and build. Anyone building a little will be fine no matter what the level he's in.

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